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    Question Low T, Low Free T, High Estrogen

    Ok I'm new here, so I just want to state that I have NEVER TAKEN STEROIDS! But I do have a serious problem, and I'd like to see if I can get any help on the matter.

    So I'm 25, and 2 years ago I started losing my hair. Long story short I took Saw Palmetto and a topical Anti-Androgen for 4 months (at the time I had no idea what an anti-androgen was....fml). Before I took it I was 195 lbs, about 10% bf, and physically felt great! within 2 weeks after stopping the supplements I felt like total crap and gained 15 pounds in 2 months of pure fat, despite lifting 3x a week and doing Interval running about 2x a week.

    I then had a few physical side effects: Decreased testicle size, breast tissue changes, lots of fat gain, lower sex drive, brain fog, dry skin hair and nails.....it's really changed my body. I do not care about the hair anymore, but I want my old energetic Male body back.

    So I went to a private Endo a few months ago to get some blood tests done and found out I had Low T, Low Free T, and very high Estrogen. I'm not too familiar with the conversions of each measurement and what's normal or not, but here were the results:

    - Total Testosterone: 351 ng/dL
    - Free Testosterone: 68.1 pg/mL
    - Estrogen: 129 pg/mL

    So my Endo knows she needs to increase my T and decrease Estrogen. She is recommending me take topical Testosterone cream mixed with Progesterone. I originally thought I need an Estrogen blocker, but she is somewhat reluctant to try it first because she uses it for cancer patients and says it's very strong.

    What do you guys think I should be taking to get back to where I need to be? Would the topical T and Progesterone be the right solution? Or should I try to have her give me an Estrogen blocker? I'm not too experienced with hormonal balancing so I'm hoping you great people here can help I'm honestly just scared of taking topical T because I know taking outside T can shut down your bodies own ability to make it. Ugh I'm so confused and scared!!

    Any help would be very appreciated, thanks.

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    I would say listen to your doctor for now. See how the Test/Pro regiment works for you. It takes time for your body to balance itself out. Don't be impatient and rush to self medicate. You could make a bad thing worse. Give it a few months and see how you feel and see how the blood work comes back.

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    How long has it been since you discontinued the topical anti-androgen?

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    What she is suggesting is TRT, testosterone replacement. Once you start that your pretty much committed for life.

    Your test is low for your age but not really low.

    If I were you I would try to fight and get my natty test back, your too young to start TRT for the rest of your life.

    This is what I would do,
    What other blood test did your endo do? Did she run FSH and LH? If not get those labs done either with her or online.
    That will tell us if your brain is telling your testies to manufacture more testosterone.
    Last edited by gymfu; 11-09-2012 at 09:53 PM.

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    Gotta get the LH and FSH tested. May just need HCG and a bit of PCT to get restarted. TRT is a big commitment at 25

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    But does trt will make it worst... If his estrogene is high and low test it means he convert alot(maybe i'm wrong...) so if he TRT He'll need a good AI or he'll get nice big boobies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qscgugcsq View Post
    But does trt will make it worst... If his estrogene is high and low test it means he convert alot(maybe i'm wrong...) so if he TRT He'll need a good AI or he'll get nice big boobies.
    A replacement dose should not cause too much aromatization to occur. It's replacement, what's supposed to be in your body normally.

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