Clen with this Cycle???

[copaaz]

Ok this is my third cycle, first in 10 years. I am going to start a new cycle which consist of the following:

Anastrozol .25mcg ed (10wks)
Deca 400mg 1xwk (8wks)
Sust 750mg 1xwk (8wks)
dbol 40mg ed (6wks)

My question is is it positive to add Clen to this cycle? If no can you explain why? Everything will be dialed in on this cycle.

[qscgugcsq]

Well... yes you can add clen but deca-dbol is mainly for Bulk so why do you want to add clen??

You can still add clen to your pct It will be a better idea.(cut fat and keep muscle from your cycle)

Also Do you really need 750 mg sustanon... (you can also split it in 2 pin/weeks) You are only at your third cycle IMHO you would do just fine with 500mg...(However, that's your call(you the only one to know how you did at your past cycle.))

What's your planned PCT??

[qscgugcsq]

If you really want to cut you would be better with test-prop/masteron/ anavar or winstrol intead or deca/dbol/sustanon

[Bio-Active]

What are your stats including bf%

[copaaz]

Nolv and Clomid after.

[Bio-Active]

Huh?

[copaaz]

weeks 9-11 Nolva and Clomid

[Bio-Active]

Yeah i het that but what are your stats? Age, Cycle experience, Bodyfat and lifting experience?

[copaaz]

37
12%
lifting for 20 years
2 cycles (mostly test w/ deca)

[copaaz]

what does that have to do with me taking Clen with my cycle?

[Bio-Active]

Clen is tricky7 cause your receptors get used to it. Most use it for 2 weeks and then stop for 2 weeks before starting again. I am not a big fan of clen. The sides can be pretty nasty. If you choose to run it make sure to drink plenty of water to help with the muscle cramps.

[copaaz]

help me answer this issue:

If Clen is a cutting drug, and my main goal is to add lean weight how does that work? I mean in order to cut fat you have to either be deficient with caloric intake or burn more calories than consumed. So how is it possible to gain muscle and also loose fat with Clen?

[copaaz]

anyone?

[ScotchGuard02]

Deca will retain water, dbol will retain a lot of water and sust has more long ester than short esters which will retain water. You're taking three substances that will retain water so why take clen in an attempt to shed water? Just do a bulking cycle and eat clean so you can bulk muscle with out too much fat. Then do a cutting cycle with short esters and clen. Clen will burn taurine out of your system so you'll get bad cramps. Buy some bulk taurine at take 3g to 5g daily.

[wesh]

Id substitute the dbol with anavar

[wesh]

Tren would also be good

[copaaz]

yeah but I don't want to retain water. I just want to retain strength and size (not attributed to water). What is the problem with trying to cut water out with this type of stack?

[wesh]

There is no problem but dbol will make you retain alot of water which u just said you dont wanna do

[copaaz]

Ok, I get that these three compounds will retain water, but I'm not taking these compounds ONLY to retain water. The water retention is a side affect that I wish to avoid, hence my question regarding taking Clen with the cycle. If you are recommending not to take Clen because (and only because) it will affect the lean muscle gains or strength attributed with these compounds then I won't take it. If the water retention that comes with these compounds is a good thing, then say it is a good thing. Otherwise I will continue thinking it is a bad thing and try to avoid it if possible.

[wesh]

Its not a bad thing. Try it and see what happens

[Gamble32jn]

try either 2 days on and 2days off, 1 week on an 1 week off or 2 weeks on an 2 weeks off. Just depends on if your body gets used to it faster than some. I do 2weeks on 2 weeks off.

[copaaz]

Thanks for your advice gamble & wesh, so is my suspicion that it doesn't affect muscle gains or strength correct?

[wesh]

I would say your correct. Keep us posted on your progress. ?