Liquid T3, Clenbuterol or Albuterol?

[Doont-Hunter]

I'm looking at the AR-R store and I'm not sure which liquid thermogenic I should use. I'm tempted to use Clenbuterol during PCT to help with preserving gains and muscle mass etc. But I see they also have liquid T3 and also Liquid Albuterol. Can some of you tell me which liquid would be best to use to help a) with fat loss, and b) to help preserve muscle gained on cycle during my PCT? Also take into consideration the possible sides, as I'd like to know which offers the best effects for the least side effects possible. Any help would be great, thanks.

[Bonaparte]

None of those are going to help much, if at all.
And T3 will actively burn muscle (along with a bunch of fat).

[austinite]

I prefer an ECA stack over all those drugs.

[Doont-Hunter]

None of those are going to help much, if at all.
And T3 will actively burn muscle (along with a bunch of fat).

I heard Clenbuterol was great at preseving muscle mass and has good anti-catabolic effects, especially in PCT? Have you used any of the above?

[warmouth]

Eca! Eca! Eca!

[warmouth]

Also, I read an article Jimmy posted a good while back that Nandi wrote. Basically from all the evidence he had, albuterol had a much beter anti-catabolic effect than Clenand was a far superior compound. Something to thing about. I still like ECA, but will try the albut eventually. Screw Clen! Ill never touch that garbage again. Worst experience I have had with any bodybuilding compound. Heart hasnt been the same since, and I only used it 1 day. ECA for me, maybe albut down the road.

[Doont-Hunter]

Also, I read an article Jimmy posted a good while back that Nandi wrote. Basically from all the evidence he had, albuterol had a much beter anti-catabolic effect than Clenand was a far superior compound. Something to thing about. I still like ECA, but will try the albut eventually. Screw Clen! Ill never touch that garbage again. Worst experience I have had with any bodybuilding compound. Heart hasnt been the same since, and I only used it 1 day. ECA for me, maybe albut down the road.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the Clenbuterol side effects I've been reading about. No point messing with the most important muscle in your body - the heart. I might do a bit of research into Albuterol, wouldn't mind trying something which has great anti-catabolic effects. I'm not so keen on the ECA stack. I personally don't find caffeine a necessity, and I don't really want to take aspirin unless I have medical condition or it's a necessity.

[warmouth]

Caffine and ephederine is synergystic and works differently when taken together. An asprin a day is a good thing in my opinion, on cycle or not. Regulates the flow of blood and can lower BP a little.

[jimmyinkedup]

I recently used arr albuterol for the first time (well not that long ago). I liked it. It was easier to manage than clen. i dont get horrible clen sides like some do, but sometimes because of its long active life it can effect my sleep. Albut was much easier in that regard and i found it to be effective.

[anahny]

I recently used arr albuterol for the first time (well not that long ago). I liked it. It was easier to manage than clen. i dont get horrible clen sides like some do, but sometimes because of its long active life it can effect my sleep. Albut was much easier in that regard and i found it to be effective.

I'm currently using clen and t3 I think most information about these two are wrong. First clen is not anti-catabolic, and yes it makes me feel like shit so I keep the dose low at 40mcg. Anything more and I feel like shit and i have the flu. T3 is catabolic but to me only seems to be at high doses. I been running t3 for 4 weeks now 50/50/50/75 mcg and not noticed any muscle loss or strength loss. My body fat went from 12% to 9% and still going. I just finished a tren cycle a month ago and still managed to keep most of my gains.

[jimmyinkedup]

I'm currently using clen and t3 I think most information about these two are wrong. First clen is not anti-catabolic, and yes it makes me feel like shit so I keep the dose low at 40mcg. Anything more and I feel like shit and i have the flu. T3 is catabolic but to me only seems to be at high doses. I been running t3 for 4 weeks now 50/50/50/75 mcg and not noticed any muscle loss or strength loss. My body fat went from 12% to 9% and still going. I just finished a tren cycle a month ago and still managed to keep most of my gains.

So let me get this straight you are taking one substance that is known to be anti catabolic with another that is known to be catabolic ...and you are saying neither one is what they are said to be. However im not quite sure that the catbolic effects of t3 are not being off set by the anti catabolic effects of the clen. For that matter im not sure how can conclude anything about individual use of either when you are running both together.
Follow what im saying ? Im not busting your balls and everyone is different but do you understand how it may not make sense to say what you are saying given yo are stacking the 2 ?

[anahny]

So let me get this straight you are taking one substance that is known to be anti catabolic with another that is known to be catabolic ...and you are saying neither one is what they are said to be. However im not quite sure that the catbolic effects of t3 are not being off set by the anti catabolic effects of the clen. For that matter im not sure how can conclude anything about individual use of either when you are running both together.
Follow what im saying ? Im not busting your balls and everyone is different but do you understand how it may not make sense to say what you are saying given yo are stacking the 2 ?

True, , but I have also ran clen alone and t3 alone in the past with no muscle loss. Though when I run clen alone I can tolerate a higher dosage. I read a lot of things that claim clen isn't anti catabolic. Though I also read a lot saying it is. From my experience with the two I find t3 alone for me at low dosage isn't catabolic. Though everyone is different. I can't handle no more than 80mcg of clen alone and some people can handle 140.

[Doont-Hunter]

I recently used arr albuterol for the first time (well not that long ago). I liked it. It was easier to manage than clen. i dont get horrible clen sides like some do, but sometimes because of its long active life it can effect my sleep. Albut was much easier in that regard and i found it to be effective.

What was the fat loss like though? Did you experience any noticeable fat loss with Albuterol? So there aren't any nasty side effects like Clenbuterol, the only major one you can think of is loss of sleep?

[warmouth]

So let me get this straight you are taking one substance that is known to be anti catabolic with another that is known to be catabolic ...and you are saying neither one is what they are said to be. However im not quite sure that the catbolic effects of t3 are not being off set by the anti catabolic effects of the clen. For that matter im not sure how can conclude anything about individual use of either when you are running both together.
Follow what im saying ? Im not busting your balls and everyone is different but do you understand how it may not make sense to say what you are saying given yo are stacking the 2 ?

I nearly pooped my pants.

[jimmyinkedup]

What was the fat loss like though? Did you experience any noticeable fat loss with Albuterol? So there aren't any nasty side effects like Clenbuterol, the only major one you can think of is loss of sleep?

I dont really get "nasty sides"with clen as far as im concerned. The only thing is because clen has such a long active life even if i dont take it late in the day it effects my sleep at times. With albuterol the active life is shorter , so i didnt experience the sleep issues i do with clen. Honestly I think the fat loss may be slightly better with clen but albut def accerates fat loss as well. Its worth it to me to get quality sleep and rest I can with albut if im sacrificing minimal difference in effectiveness.