Steroids and alcohol ??

**kryptik** · 11-13-2012, 04:57 AM

I'm just wondering could mixing these lea to someone being schizophrenic ?? Just wondering because I'm pretty sure my mum was on steroids because she was massive an used to go an do competitions. She ended up going on holiday drinking one day an when she got back she started becoming paranoid an all sorts of other shit happened an she's now schitsofrenic. And I read somewhere that schitsofrenia can be caused by steroids an alcohol because it messes with your mind if your female, is this true ?

**lovbyts** · 11-13-2012, 05:05 AM

Seriously? Well if you listen to the media steroids are blamed for EVERYTHING but yet doctors prescribe testosterone to people all the time such as myself and many others on this board for HRT.

Simply put. NO
It's more likely the stress of having kids.

**dannypefc1878** · 11-13-2012, 05:19 AM

Nothing 'causes' schizophrenia it's a problem with brain chemistry that just develops. Certain things can trigger it off, alcohol and illegal drugs being one of them. Steroids cannot trigger it off, it just happens that she may have taken them at some point.

**ScotchGuard02** · 11-13-2012, 08:33 AM

Women are pretty sensitive to hormonal changes, ie PMS. Will steroids affect women, physically? Yes of course take a look at the giant women in body building. A woman could never achieve such size and vacularity without steroids. However, I've never read anything about steroids/alcohol causing schizophrenia. Alcohol is a depressant and it causes mood change in people, ie mean drunk or the lovable lush. If one is chemically disposed to schizophrenia I guess there's a long shot that alcohol can exasperate the problem. I don't care what the "experts" say I still think "roid rage " is contrived. I know guys that's been on steroids for over 20 years and they don't beat their wives. If anything steroids enhance the release of dopamine and your sense of well being goes through the roof. Enough pontificating, my simple answer is "no" I don't think steroids and alcohol cause schizophrenia.

**wesh** · 11-13-2012, 08:43 AM

Steroids are blamed for everything. Prob be the cause of the next war lol

**acidking** · 11-13-2012, 09:45 AM

mental illnesses are hereditary, so she must have had it in her since birth, and you too are certainly prone to such illnesses, if you're a guy then you have less to worry about. My mom is also schizophrenic, and I have a couple of aunts and a few female cousins who also are, my bro has aspergers and I am autistic. Notice that post-cycle depression is quite an issue, during PCT and the couple of weeks before PCT can be dramatic since your testosterone drops to very low levels, so no doubt steroids played a role in triggering the illness, in addition to alcohol, I don't see place for doubt.

**acidking** · 11-13-2012, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

I don't care what the "experts" say I still think "roid rage" is contrived.

Roids rage is very real, not talking about generally being more aggressive on cycle, real roid rage is when it snaps beyond being mildly aggressive, it can happen at any second, you'll simply have no control over anything but to get to your goal whatever the cost is. Your nervous system would simply crash. Sheer determination.

**JohnnyVegas** · 11-13-2012, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by acidking

Roids rage is very real, not talking about generally being more aggressive on cycle, real roid rage is when it snaps beyond being mildly aggressive, it can happen at any second, you'll simply have no control over anything but to get to your goal whatever the cost is. Your nervous system would simply crash. Sheer determination.

Whaaa?

**Chx beach 79** · 11-13-2012, 11:05 AM

Test has never made me rage at all! If anything when my test is high I feel more at peace... I don't have experience with other compounds though...

**dannypefc1878** · 11-13-2012, 12:51 PM

Where does the term roid rage come from anyway? How come there is no term 'beer rage' or 'alcohol anger' because there is an actual proven link between alcohol and violence whereas I haven't see any proof of steroid related violence. 90% of all violent crime in the UK is caused by alcohol. What percentage is caused by steroids ? One is illegal and one is legal heavily taxed and makes the government a fortune. I rest my case

**Chx beach 79** · 11-13-2012, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by dannypefc1878

Where does the term roid rage come from anyway? How come there is no term 'beer rage' or 'alcohol anger' because there is an actual proven link between alcohol and violence whereas I haven't see any proof of steroid related violence. 90% of all violent crime in the UK is caused by alcohol. What percentage is caused by steroids? One is illegal and one is legal heavily taxed and makes the government a fortune. I rest my case

Yeah, really! People make a huge deal about steroids but ignore things that make you much more aggressive! I guess the only teacher is actual experience...

**BlueWaffle21** · 11-13-2012, 01:56 PM

I get much more verbal with people that annoy me on cycle but I've never been to the point of raging. I have seen it though but it's in people that have had terible tempers to begin with. Steroids just increase the emotions you already have.

**njs** · 11-13-2012, 02:11 PM

Mixing the two is not a good idea i dont know about the mental aspect but aggressive i know well.

**dannypefc1878** · 11-13-2012, 02:53 PM

I have ha bad anger problems in the past and trust me it has nothing to do with steroids . People are angry not steroids. Angry people should not drink alcohol, do drugs or take steroids they need to do what I did and address their issues. I went to intensive counselling and got a handle of my problems before I Ben considered cycling again. On cycle now , yeh I'm more aggressive which I use to
My advantage in the gym, but angry? No not at all. If anything I get unexplained feelings of well being where this time last year I would of felt unhappy. Weird

**Chx beach 79** · 11-13-2012, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by dannypefc1878

I have ha bad anger problems in the past and trust me it has nothing to do with steroids . People are angry not steroids. Angry people should not drink alcohol, do drugs or take steroids they need to do what I did and address their issues. I went to intensive counselling and got a handle of my problems before I Ben considered cycling again. On cycle now , yeh I'm more aggressive which I use to
My advantage in the gym, but angry? No not at all. If anything I get unexplained feelings of well being where this time last year I would of felt unhappy. Weird

Yeah that's true... I use to struggle with depression before getting on TRT... Test makes me feel good and at peace... I had doctors give me antidepressants which I hated and it turned out it was my test levels the whole time... I do get more passionate about things when my test is high, but never violent!

**Bonaparte** · 11-13-2012, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by acidking

Roids rage is very real, not talking about generally being more aggressive on cycle, real roid rage is when it snaps beyond being mildly aggressive, it can happen at any second, you'll simply have no control over anything but to get to your goal whatever the cost is. Your nervous system would simply crash. Sheer determination.

Just leave.

**qscgugcsq** · 11-13-2012, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Just leave.

agreed ^^

**Chx beach 79** · 11-13-2012, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by qscgugcsq

agreed ^^

I don't get it... Why?

**krugerr** · 11-13-2012, 04:05 PM

My view on roid rage is that there is no such thing.
I am a chilled out person, easy going and I have a firm grip on my temper. When I'm on gear, I'm the same. I can easily control my anger like I normally would.
A twat that is gobby, aggressive and boisterous normally, typically the type to go looking for fights after a couple of Stella's. this person has no control over their anger or actions. When they take steroids , they still act like this.
The media doesn't notice the thousands of people on gear that control it. They focus on that one "roid-head" that punched an OAP.

Sorry to derail. I just hate the thought of people blaming substances for their actions.

**warmouth** · 11-13-2012, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by acidking

Roids rage is very real, not talking about generally being more aggressive on cycle, real roid rage is when it snaps beyond being mildly aggressive, it can happen at any second, you'll simply have no control over anything but to get to your goal whatever the cost is. Your nervous system would simply crash. Sheer determination.

Bullcrap.

**njs** · 11-13-2012, 06:14 PM

I get alot more aggressive on cycles and i learned to work with it. When doing tren it really comes out i dont think steroids make you aggressive it just brings out the natural instinct that all men have and makes it more intense. I think roid rage is a bad term but if im not feeling that inner aggression then im not liking the gear but thats me.

**JohnnyTribal** · 11-13-2012, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

Just leave.

Haha

**Chx beach 79** · 11-13-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnyTribal

Haha

Yeah! That's true!!! It's more like it makes you more soberly alert!!!

**JohnnyTribal** · 11-13-2012, 07:29 PM

Roid rage is a myth that is in a persons head, if you want to lash out and be angry and aggressive then blame your steroid use for it, then it's all a self invented lie. I haven't been doing this long at all and have no room to talk on the experience part of all this but the same experiment can be applied in any aspect and you will have the same outcome. If you want it to be there it will be, but everything is formulated from "self". I have close friends that have been running gear longer than I have been alive, nobody flips out on other people like its made out to be. Test can make you more aggressive I am sure but as to what area in your life and brain you apply it to, is a conscious choice that is made. Steroids do not swell or contract your medulla oblongata. You make a decision to act whatever way you act. Just like waking up and having a good day or a bad one, its a choice you make.

**wesh** · 11-14-2012, 09:21 AM

Someone show me the research scientific proof that aas causes roid rage or death. Ive seen so many things blamed on it. Number 1 most sickening is wrestler chris benoit killing his wife and kid then himself and the next day steroids was the blame. The media makes me fu--in sick. They are ignorant on the subject. Its funny how with the hours of reading i have done and numerous documetaries ive seen not one can provide scientific proof of these issues

**Gamble32jn** · 11-14-2012, 09:33 AM

I have always had a short temper but using Test and Tren I seem to be at more peace...weird huh? Guess knowing you have tools that can make my temper worse helps u control it even better.

**wesh** · 11-14-2012, 09:37 AM

Lol!! Weird indeed. Who would have thought? Lol

**dannypefc1878** · 11-15-2012, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by wesh

Someone show me the research scientific proof that aas causes roid rage or death. Ive seen so many things blamed on it. Number 1 most sickening is wrestler chris benoit killing his wife and kid then himself and the next day steroids was the blame. The media makes me fu--in sick. They are ignorant on the subject. Its funny how with the hours of reading i have done and numerous documetaries ive seen not one can provide scientific proof of these issues

In the case if Chris Benoit he also had severe depression, had abused cocaine and had severe recurrent trauma to his head which caused neurodegeneration which basically caused insanity. None of this was reported in the news only the steroids .