Does aas affect prostate

[ppwc1985]

Can aas damage your prostate. Just received my blood test back and dr is sending me to specialist due to high prostate count.

[MuscleInk]

Can aas damage your prostate. Just received my blood test back and dr is sending me to specialist due to high prostate count.

It will increase your PSA most definitely. Damage? No. Off cycle it should come back down. A 5mg dose of Cialis daily for 30d will bring it back down.

[AD]

i thought it was propecia/finasteride that lowers PSA.

may be a good idea to stop your cycle (if you're currently on) and check PSA again.

[MuscleInk]

i thought it was propecia/finasteride that lowers PSA.

may be a good idea to stop your cycle (if you're currently on) and check PSA again.

Cialis recently approved for BPH. 5mg, PO, qd. I'm prescribing it in clinic and getting good results. Some prescribe it for HTN but not my preferred application.

[AD]

Cialis recently approved for BPH. 5mg, PO, qd. I'm prescribing it in clinic and getting good results. Some prescribe it for HTN but not my preferred application.

i am under the impression that cialis decreases the symptoms of BPH by its action on prostatic smooth muscles. i'm not sure if that decreases PSA. (assuming the raised PSA was due to BPH in the first place )

[MuscleInk]

i am under the impression that cialis decreases the symptoms of BPH by its action on prostatic smooth muscles. i'm not sure if that decreases PSA. (assuming the raised PSA was due to BPH in the first place )

My PSA went from 7.2 on cycle back to 1.3 with 5mg daily.

[ppwc1985]

I finish pct on oct 11, I had physical on Monday, checked my prostate it was good but the bw came back over 4. So she sending me to the specialist. Think I should just tell her I cycled or let specialist check me out? Thks

[Ashop]

I finish pct on oct 11, I had physical on Monday, checked my prostate it was good but the bw came back over 4. So she sending me to the specialist. Think I should just tell her I cycled or let specialist check me out? Thks

Do you smoke or use any tobacco products?

[MR10X]

Heres my first hand experience with the Prostate. Been using AAS for 30 years off and on,done probably 40 cycles in that time. I never had any prostate issues or trouble peeing even while on AAS.Did 6 cycles in 2010 and 2011 which were 600mg test weekly,350mg tren A weekly and 600mg EQ weekly and one cycle had Masteron included.I am now 66 and went to the doctor in JAN for a check up,where he did the DRE and PSA blood test and test level. Prostate was not enlarged or have any lumps or other abnormalities. PSA came back 5.5,test was 505. went to a urologist in MAY had another DRE and it was normal but PSA was 11.4. He did a biopsy and my gleason score came back 8 with high grade cancer.I am right now on ADT therapy and have 61 Radiation seeds implanted in my prostate. The ADT theropy shrinks the prostate because of the lack of testerone in my system. Just because your prostate isnt enlarged doesnt mean you dont have prostate problems,you should have the PSA test done regularly if you use AAS,you have to catch any prostate problems early if you expect a good outcome..........


ADT therapy with Eligard:
Leuprolide is used to treat advanced prostate cancer in men. It is not a cure. Most types of prostate cancer need the male hormone testosterone to grow and spread. Leuprolide works by reducing the amount of testosterone that the body makes. This helps slow or stop the growth of cancer cells and helps relieve symptoms such as painful/difficult urination. Talk to your doctor about the risks and benefits of treatment.
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[AD]

better let the urologist take a look. he may just repeat it in a month's time to see the trend. or he may do an ultrasound to see your prostate. that should confirm the diagnosis, whether its nothing or...something...

[ppwc1985]

Ok aisiandude and muscleink ill just let them check me to be on safe side

[MuscleInk]

Ok aisiandude and muscleink ill just let them check me to be on safe side

Uro will perform a DRE and may put you on flowmax. Let us know.

[kelkel]

Here:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm274642.htm

Remember, if you ejaculated within about 2 days of your BW if can cause an elevation in your PSA as well.

Cialis is great like MI said. I do 5mg twice per day. Noon and bedtime.

kel

[MuscleInk]

Here:

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm274642.htm

Remember, if you ejaculated within about 2 days of your BW if can cause an elevation in your PSA as well.

Cialis is great like MI said. I do 5mg twice per day. Noon and bedtime.

kel

Thanks for including the ejaculate effects Kel. Forgot to mention that!!!

[Wolv256]

If you've ejaculated within 2 days?!? I don't think I've gone over 2 days without ejaculating since I was 15! I mean not all with women, but one way or another. Who are you guys, Tim Tebow?

[kolaking]

DHT based seem to have more influence on prostate...Cialis is new to me for control...thanks for that just ordered some.

[Bonaparte]

Is there anything Cialis doesn't do?!
Bloody amazing!

[marcus300]

Is there anything Cialis doesn't do?!
Bloody amazing!

I was about to say the same thing

looks like its the little pill to have around

[frank13]

Is there anything Cialis doesn't do?!
Bloody amazing!

i guess thats what justifies why it cost so much f-ing money

[kolaking]

Looking forward to trying it. What other off label uses do you guys know about?

[Trying-Hard]

Any studies/links to back up that Cialis reduces PSA?

EDIT: Just saw kelkel's link.

[ppwc1985]

Thank you all of you, and yes on the ejactulation. Right after my pct I started cialis at 5 mg day but I only did it for about two weeks, I think I will start back on today. Should I just go for the 5 mg Ed or up that to twice Ed. Again it's nice to have a place we can go and get this good info. I was really worried all day today, now still a little worried but like the dr said your only 45 so not something she sees alot in men at that age. Thank you all of you?

[AD]

Thank you all of you, and yes on the ejactulation. Right after my pct I started cialis at 5 mg day but I only did it for about two weeks, I think I will start back on today. Should I just go for the 5 mg Ed or up that to twice Ed. Again it's nice to have a place we can go and get this good info. I was really worried all day today, now still a little worried but like the dr said your only 45 so not something she sees alot in men at that age. Thank you all of you?

op, if you dont mind, whats your PSA level? you said above 4.

and everyone is discussing how cialis is newly approved for the treatment of symptomatic BPH. do you even have these symptoms?

although not common, if i had raised PSA, the first thing i want to do is to exclude a tumor, not try to decrease it before further investigations can be done. just my opinion.

edit: and just to be an arse, i still dont see how cialis can decrease PSA. i know it can be used to improve the symptoms of BPH. but thats by a totally unrelated mechanism.

[OnTheSauce]

I don't want to be any hornier than I am lol. Not sure cialis would be good for me. I know it has great affects throughout the body though

[MuscleInk]

Can J Urol, 2012 vol. 19(5 Suppl 1) pp. 10-7
Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) management in the primary care setting.

[Lemonada8]

actually, the efficacy of PSA testing related to BPH is being debated in the medical community. Apparently its not as reliable to detect BPH as it once thought. The best way to check for BPH is a DRE. And get one if you are having symptoms of BPH.

Its not that big of a deal honestly... its not malignant, its just overgrowth. Prostate cancer, on the other hand, is an entirely different issue and in NO WAY am i talking about that in this post.

And cialis helps BPH by prolonging the relaxation in the smooth muscle in the prostate, so the symptoms arent nearly as severe cuz thats basically what it comes down to. BPH is problematic due to the inability to urinate, which backs up the ureters and into the kidneys which can cause more issues that are much more severe.

[Sworder]

I wasn't aware that tadalafil lowered PSA. Anybody have evidence to support this? I know of 5ARI, NSAIDs, and abx.

[MuscleInk]

I wasn't aware that tadalafil lowered PSA. Anybody have evidence to support this? I know of 5ARI, NSAIDs, and abx.

Read above.

[Sworder]

Read above.

Ahhh MuscleInk c'mon! Anecdotal evidence, when there may be more than one variable missing. What if you took aspirin that day but forgot about it?

If you are talking about Kelkel's link that one was for BPH.

[MuscleInk]

Ahhh MuscleInk c'mon! Anecdotal evidence, when there may be more than one variable missing. What if you took aspirin that day but forgot about it?

If you are talking about Kelkel's link that one was for BPH.

Can J Urol, 2012 vol. 19(5 Suppl 1) pp. 10-7
Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) management in the primary care setting.

This was the one I was referring to when I said read above.

[Sworder]

This one? I can't find it Neither is the PSA value established in the abstract(as expected).

Are you sure of this MuscleInk? I have thoroughly searched this topic before but unsuccessful in finding anything other than the aforementioned.

Can't find the information you are referring to.

Benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) management in the primary care setting
Kapoor Anil ; McMaster University, Juravinski Cancer Centre, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Oct 2012 (Vol. 19, Issue 51, Pages( 10 - 17)
http://canjurol.com/html/free-articl...3-DrKapoor.pdf
Abstract:
Benign prostate hyperplasia (BPH) occurs in up to 50% of men by age 50, and the incidence increases with age. This common clinical problem is diagnosed by history, including the International Prostate Symptom Score (IPSS) questionnaire, and physical examination by digital rectal examination (DRE). Initial management for BPH includes lifestyle modification, and smooth muscle relaxant alpha blocker therapy. Alpha blockers usually take effect quickly within 3-5 days, and have minimal side effects. Current commonly used alpha blockers include the selective alpha blockers tamsulosin (Flomax), alfusosin (Xatral), and silodosin (Rapaflo). For patients with larger prostates, the 5-alpha reductase inhibitor class (finasteride (Proscar) and dutasteride (Avodart)) work effectively to shrink prostate stroma resulting in improved voiding. The 5-ARI class of drugs, in addition to reducing prostate size, also reduce the need for future BPH-related surgery, and reduce the risk of future urinary retention. Drugs from the phosphodiesterase-5 (PDE-5) inhibitor class may now be considered for treating BPH. Once daily 5 mg tadalafil has been shown to improve BPH-related symptoms and is currently approved to treat patients with BPH. Referral to a urologist can be considered for patients with a rising prostate-specific antigen (PSA), especially while on 5-ARI, failure of urinary symptom control despite maximal medical therapy, suspicion of prostate cancer, hematuria, recurrent urinary infections, urinary retention, or renal failure. Currently the primary care physician is armed with multiple treatment options to effectively treat men with symptomatic BPH.

[MuscleInk]

Sworder,

I'll check my home PC and see what I have there. If not, I can send you something from my office pubs. My pubmed app on the phone isn't a full tool. I should also have some info from the manufacturer and the new PDR will have the indication listed as well.

[Sworder]

Sworder,

I'll check my home PC and see what I have there. If not, I can send you something from my office pubs. My pubmed app on the phone isn't a full tool. I should also have some info from the manufacturer and the new PDR will have the indication listed as well.

Thanks, I would appreciate it!

[MuscleInk]

Thanks, I would appreciate it!

I've got those pubs on alcohol and myogenesis you asked about as well. Will get those posted soon.

[Sworder]

Nice

[ppwc1985]

Lol idk the extact number I will get my dr to email me I just know she said mine should be I think down in the 1.something and mine was 4. Something I will get the exact amount and post my labs in the blood work section tommorow. In still going to let them do their thing, I have abused my body? so just let them check to be for sure. Hope it is just a miss read, or at least no cancer. But she did say my white blood cells were great so wouldn't that rule out cancer???

[AD]

if its only 4.something, then you're most likely in the clear. sorry if i made you panic. But you should still see the uro just in case.

white cell levels dont count for much.

[ppwc1985]

What's good for prostate health, anything??

[acidking]

Generally? I heard multi-vits and tomatoes are good. I would like to know what else too.

[kelkel]

A little more to the relationship between BPH and PSA:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2440415/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16536765


Great little pill to have around. My insurance sends me these whopper size bottles of 180 every couple months. Nice.