First Cycle problem

[Stalin01]

Hello, Friends! My name is Boris. I am here to hear your knowledge because knowledge is power. I want to start my first cycle. I have everything ready:Tamoxifen, Karsil, needles; But i have one problem.
I have accidentaly bought 2 vials (10ml 250mg/1ml both): T.Complex and T.Enantanthe. I thought they were both T.Enanthante.
So here is my question. Can i start with T.Complex for the first 6 weeks and than continue with the T.Enantanthe? OR are they different kinds of testosterone and they will totally disarrange my hormonal levels ? No refund is availavable .Should i make them 2 short cycles for 6 weeks 2-3 months apart from each other? Which is the best idea? Thank you for your time.

[Abdulla]

Hello, Friends! My name is Boris. I am here to hear your knowledge because knowledge is power. I want to start my first cycle. I have everything ready:Tamoxifen, Karsil, needles; But i have one problem.
I have accidentaly bought 2 vials (10ml 250mg/1ml both): T.Complex and T.Enantanthe. I thought they were both T.Enanthante.
So here is my question. Can i start with T.Complex for the first 6 weeks and than continue with the T.Enantanthe? OR are they different kinds of testosterone and they will totally disarrange my hormonal levels ? No refund is availavable .Should i make them 2 short cycles for 6 weeks 2-3 months apart from each other? Which is the best idea? Thank you for your time.

Sorry i am a newbie also and just curious about your purchases, im assuming for the 12 week cycle, you need two vials of Test? just need an estimate thanks! hopefully some of the nice people can answer your question! and we can both learn from it peace

[MuscleInk]

sorry i am a newbie also and just curious about your purchases, im assuming for the 12 week cycle, you need two vials of test? & how much should i look to pay for each? Just need an estimate thanks! Hopefully some of the nice people can answer your question! And we can both learn from it peace

absolutely no price discussion on this board please!!!!!

[Abdulla]

absolutely no price discussion on this board please!!!!!

Edited out, sorry didn't know we couldnt discuss them. Thanks muscle! appreciate it!

[MuscleInk]

Edited out, sorry didn't know we couldnt discuss them. Thanks muscle! appreciate it!

Thanks brother!

[Stalin01]

Sorry i am a newbie also and just curious about your purchases, im assuming for the 12 week cycle, you need two vials of Test? just need an estimate thanks! hopefully some of the nice people can answer your question! and we can both learn from it peace

Yes for a 12 week cycle you will need about 6000 mg of T. or 20ml. for a 500mg/week injections. I already have my Vials but as i said i need knowledgable perspective of it. Because i am not sure if different kinds of testosterone disrupt my own hormonal productivity. And because one of the vials is a comlex it has different T. in it than the other one wich is T.Enenthante.

[BR0DIE]

Yes for a 12 week cycle you will need about 6000 mg of T. or 20ml. for a 500mg/week injections. I already have my Vials but as i said i need knowledgable perspective of it. Because i am not sure if different kinds of testosterone disrupt my own hormonal productivity. And because one of the vials is a comlex it has different T. in it than the other one wich is T.Enenthante.

What esters are in the T complex? This is all it will come down too.

[Stalin01]

What esters are in the T complex? This is all it will come down too.

It contains:
T.Propionate 30mg
T.Phenylopropionate 60mg
T.Isocaproate 60mg
T.Deconate 100mg

As far as my steroids knowledge goes, i think the best option would be to burst a short 6 week cycle with the complex and wait a year to buy another vial of Enenthante and make a long cycle next year. What do you think?

[MickeyKnox]

Hello, Friends! My name is Boris. I am here to hear your knowledge because knowledge is power. I want to start my first cycle. I have everything ready:Tamoxifen, Karsil, needles; But i have one problem.
I have accidentaly bought 2 vials (10ml 250mg/1ml both): T.Complex and T.Enantanthe. I thought they were both T.Enanthante.
So here is my question. Can i start with T.Complex for the first 6 weeks and than continue with the T.Enantanthe? OR are they different kinds of testosterone and they will totally disarrange my hormonal levels ? No refund is availavable .Should i make them 2 short cycles for 6 weeks 2-3 months apart from each other? Which is the best idea? Thank you for your time.

Welcome to the forums.

That's not everything. Do you have an AI? What about hCG? How about adding Clomid to your PCT? What are your dosing amounts/protocols for your cycle and PCT?

Youre not ready at all Boris.

[Stalin01]

Welcome to the forums.

That's not everything. Do you have an AI? What about hCG? How about adding Clomid to your PCT? What are your dosing amounts/protocols for your cycle and PCT?

Youre not ready at all Boris.

There is no need for me taking hCG, tamoxifen is used as the same reason as clomid ,as this is my first cycle there is not a reason for stacking so many protectors.
I have everything sign in my notepad in a graph as daily dosages. Please stick with the thread.

[BR0DIE]

There is no need for me taking hCG, tamoxifen is used as the same reason as clomid ,as this is my first cycle there is not a reason for stacking so many protectors.
I have everything sign in my notepad in a graph as daily dosages. Please stick with the thread.

You need an AI and HCG, if you think you don't then you still have some researching to do.

[stpete]

OK, i'll stick w/the thread. You are wrong about HCG. and about nolva and clomid being the same. You T-Complex is weak, and running 2 short bursts especially w/enanthate is a waste. You don't have enough for a real cycle.

[Stalin01]

OK, i'll stick w/the thread. You are wrong about HCG. and about nolva and clomid being the same. You T-Complex is weak, and running 2 short bursts especially w/enanthate is a waste. You don't have enough for a real cycle.

Allright so to make the best out of it i would start with the Complex for 6 weeks see how steroids affect my body take a pct and wait a year and buy another vial of enentanthe?

[stpete]

No, just get another bottle of enanthate. Start w/the E and finish w/that Complex stuff you have. And i tell you to get another bottle cause you're going to be short.

[acidking]

The Complex is mostly known as Sustanon.
Don't make them short cycles of 6 weeks, you'll waste your gear, 12 weeks is ideal.
How old are you? If this is your first cycle I suggest going for 250mg a week and see how you fair out.
I myself wouldn't mind running test E and Sustanon together, you can even mix them up in the same syringe.

[MuscleInk]

There is no need for me taking hCG, tamoxifen is used as the same reason as clomid ,as this is my first cycle there is not a reason for stacking so many protectors.
I have everything sign in my notepad in a graph as daily dosages. Please stick with the thread.

Wrong on both both accounts. The purpose of HCG is that it stimulates the leydig cells of the testes and helps restore any atrophy that may have occurred. WIthout it, restarting your own testosterone production could take longer. If you are a TRT patient and returning to a TRT plan post cycle, then yes, HCG may not be necessary - oitherwise, your logic is flawed. Tamoxifen is the same as clomiphene? We'll you are only partially correct here. Both are SERMS, however, the added value of clomiphene is that it has spermatogenic properties - meaning it will help restore suppressed sperm count after a cycle. Tamoxifen will not do that for you.