novice test tren cycle!! :O

[honeyking]

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[adamjames]

whats your goal here?? it looks like your aiming for a dry ripped look using prop and tren with adex so why would you make your estrogen sky rocket by adding HCG ? i would run the tren at 50 mg eod you will still see great gains being a first time user

[Chx beach 79]

Sounds smart!!! Why not throw 100 mg of dbol tabs a day... No pct needed... Lol... Lmao... Seriously good luck! You will need it, chances are way higher that this will end horribly... I have 3 friends who tried test and tren as there first cycle and all 3 ended in devistation... It is rare to here of novices using tren and it working out well... You obviously have your mind made up, or already spent a lot of money on the gear so my prayers are with you... Miracles can happen...

[Fllifter]

Check out atominis thread on all you need to know about tren under the stickies section.

Best of luck

[stpete]

i know tren is not for beginners,but still i wana run it so no more hate on that.i think its better thn winny somewhere!
stats--i am 6feet,191lbs with 14%body fat,23year old!


1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tren ace75 mg eod
2-10 hcg 1000 ius week
1-10 adex 0.5 EOD
1-12 caber 0.5 mg e3d

---1 week off--- pct

Clomid 100/100/75/50
test tribulus
daa

**i will not drop tren so dont ask to run test only and now please edit is if anything is wrong! **

Other than you running tren w/your first cycle, there's a few things wrong. HCG dosage, adex, timing on the PCT and your PCT is weak.

Normally i would be more descriptive and try to guide you in the right direction but since you're giving us orders i guess that's all i can do for now.

Good Luck.

[600@50]

So what are you asking OP?

[Lunk1]

Tren could easily be run on a first or second cycle....by a mature individual who has taken the time to grasp a FULL understanding of the compound. You cycle proposal and attitude reflect that you are neither of these. You don't want to hear it...too bad! Drop the tren for the first cycle and learn how your body reacts to an idividual compound. I have seen more experienced users have to jump off Tren quickly because they could not handle the sides and just were not ready.

Tren is a great compound, no question! But not one to go into with this kind of an attitude!

[champ14]

I know people here don't recommend tren for the first cycle but I did my first cycle with test e and loved it. There were some sides like night sweats and aggression but like someone said if you are mature u will be fine. I'm on test and deca now but I'm switching back to tren. Tren to me is the holy grail. However your PCT does look weak and why so much HCG . 250x2 ew is enough IMO. Enjoy

[MickeyKnox]

Since your attitude is so cavalier about using Tren , why worry about the rest of your weak convoluted messed up cycle?

EDIT: never mind, carry on and good luck.

[Chx beach 79]

I do want to use tren one day, but it makes me nervous... I know a few beginers who used it on there first cycle and thought it would be great... None of those people even workout anymore... Torn muscles, muscle spasm, and tren flu scared them off... The common factor with these guys was they each thought they were indestructable... And they were all too enexperienced to handle it...

[Capebuffalo]

Just a hick question. If you start having sides how do you know if it's from the test or the tren ? How do you diagnose what the problem is related to? How do you treat what you don't know or understand?

Carry on

[Ashop]

i know tren is not for beginners,but still i wana run it so no more hate on that.i think its better thn winny somewhere!
stats--i am 6feet,191lbs with 14%body fat,23year old!


1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tren ace75 mg eod
2-10 hcg 1000 ius week
1-10 adex 0.5 EOD
1-12 caber 0.5 mg e3d

---1 week off--- pct

Clomid 100/100/75/50
test tribulus
daa

**i will not drop tren so dont ask to run test only and now please edit is if anything is wrong! **

Sounds like your mind is set. Let us know how it goes.

[kronik420]

i know tren is not for beginners,but still i wana run it so no more hate on that.i think its better thn winny somewhere!
stats--i am 6feet,191lbs with 14%body fat,23year old!


1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tren ace75 mg eod
2-10 hcg 1000 ius week
1-10 adex 0.5 EOD
1-12 caber 0.5 mg e3d

---1 week off--- pct

Clomid 100/100/75/50
test tribulus
daa

**i will not drop tren so dont ask to run test only and now please edit is if anything is wrong! **

did you have a question?

good luck...

[Capebuffalo]

did you have a question?

good luck...

He will when this thing goes sideways. And probably won't be dictating what type of answered he gets.

[Chx beach 79]

He will when this thing goes sideways. And probably won't be dictating what type of answered he gets.

Yeah give it 14 days and there will be tons of threads posted!!! I'm sick, I'm scared, I hurt myself, etc. etc. etc... I hope I'm wrong, and I'm not the most experienced guy around, but i know what I have seen...

[kronik420]

Yeah give it 14 days and there will be tons of threads posted!!! I'm sick, I'm scared, I hurt myself, etc. etc. etc... I hope I'm wrong, and I'm not the most experienced guy around, but i know what I have seen...

and "i haven't slept in 14 days" lol

[Chx beach 79]

and "i haven't slept in 14 days" lol

Yeah right!!! Psychosis is setting in! Next stop psych ward! Lol, lmao

[kronik420]

Yeah right!!! Psychosis is setting in! Next stop psych ward! Lol, lmao

as funny as it is, it is however a real possibility.... which wouldn't be funny at all if it happens to you (OP)..

idk why OP wants to use tren for... maybe he'll reconsider after his 1st pin, i've heard that prop and tren ace can be somewhat of a painful injection.. lol now imagine injecting that into virgin muscle... ouch lol..

[Chx beach 79]

as funny as it is, it is however a real possibility.... which wouldn't be funny at all if it happens to you (OP)..

idk why OP wants to use tren for... maybe he'll reconsider after his 1st pin, i've heard that prop and tren ace can be somewhat of a painful injection.. lol now imagine injecting that into virgin muscle... ouch lol..

I know, I know... I hope for the best... It just seems like it won't end good... I could be wrong... It could just be the tren that people get where I live... Butt, best of luck!!!

[JohnnyVegas]

I know everyone feels like they need to pile on because the OP used the word "Tren ", but has anyone done the math? 350mg of Test and 262mg of Tren a week? Not massive.

Having said that, I think Test only is the only way to go for a first run.

At those doses I think the Adex is high, not sure you need Caber and the hCG dose seems aggressive.

I do agree with everyone that more research should be done and things should be rethought.

[Chx beach 79]

I know everyone feels like they need to pile on because the OP used the word "Tren ", but has anyone done the math? 350mg of Test and 262mg of Tren a week? Not massive.

Having said that, I think Test only is the only way to go for a first run.

At those doses I think the Adex is high, not sure you need Caber and the hCG dose seems aggressive.

I do agree with everyone that more research should be done and things should be rethought.

Johnny, I agree with you and respect your thoughts as a experienced member... But, people inexperienced in steroids and are new to weightlifting, and have never run a cycle... Chances are their will be problems... I have seen way more people stop a tren cycle midway than I have seen finish one...

[gymfu]

Tren could easily be run on a first or second cycle....by a mature individual who has taken the time to grasp a FULL understanding of the compound. You cycle proposal and attitude reflect that you are neither of these. You don't want to hear it...too bad! Drop the tren for the first cycle and learn how your body reacts to an idividual compound. I have seen more experienced users have to jump off Tren quickly because they could not handle the sides and just were not ready.

Tren is a great compound, no question! But not one to go into with this kind of an attitude!

Tren is great, but for a first cycle it's completely unnecessary. A test cycle will yield unbelievable results for a newbie.

[champ14]

Idk where some of you guys get your tren but maybe u need a new source if u are complaining of all these sides or lower the dose. Tren does have it sides but IMO nothing that bad. Have I pullled a muscle on tren yes but I should have warmed up better, did I get night sweats? Yes so sleep on a towel or have spare shirts. Did I have insomnia sure man up and deal with it. Test only should always be the first cycle however if u wanna go a different route then go for it. Just make sure u do your research and know what your doing. I don't think u should be getting blasted for this with people telling u it's gonna end bad your gonna get sick and your gonna die. I'm being sarcastic but instead of saying don't do it and bad idea I think people should help them along the way and let us know whatever you decide you do and keep us updated

[honeyking]

Sorry if was rude but guys i know Tren is not for novice and I have ready atomi post on tren but the whole idea behind running tren is to reduce my bodyfat and gain some lean muscle! And moreover i was thinking to run winstrol previously but its harsh on liver so i thought TREN would be great to run.But if its really such a wrong decision for a beginner,then Ok i will drop it! but now now please edit my cycle,it would be fantastic if u will keep tren in it(even on lowest doses)!!

[lovbyts]

Sorry if was rude but guys i know Tren is not for novice and I have ready atomi post on tren but the whole idea behind running tren is to reduce my bodyfat and gain some lean muscle! And moreover i was thinking to run winstrol previously but its harsh on liver so i thought TREN would be great to run.But if its really such a wrong decision for a beginner,then Ok i will drop it! but now now please edit my cycle,it would be fantastic if u will keep tren in it(even on lowest doses)!!

You can do that with test alone and a decent diet. You dont need tren for that. lol If you dont have the diet ALREADY in place then the tren is not going to help much if at all. It's funny how guys still think it's some magic pill/shot.

[honeyking]

You can do that with test alone and a decent diet. You dont need tren for that. lol If you dont have the diet ALREADY in place then the tren is not going to help much if at all. It's funny how guys still think it's some magic pill/shot.

i dont think steroid is a magic pill or something,it just rewarding you hardwork!getting the most from your body in that 10-12week time!

[lovbyts]

If you say so. Sound like magic to me. LOL I'm thinking you will be one of those who will learn the hard way. Do what you want. Good luck and we will probably be here to help you through the months of recovery.

[JohnnyVegas]

Johnny, I agree with you and respect your thoughts as a experienced member... But, people inexperienced in steroids and are new to weightlifting, and have never run a cycle... Chances are their will be problems... I have seen way more people stop a tren cycle midway than I have seen finish one...

I know. I thought I was pretty clear that I would recommend Test only and that the whole plan should go on hold until more reading was done.

I also thought it was important to point out there was more to his plan that could cause problems besides the Tren . He is talking about a small Test dose with a disproportionate amount of Adex. He is possibly doing an unnecessary amount of hCG (not that it would be detrimental).

I figured it was important to point out possible problems in case he is dead set on Tren use.

[kronik420]

delete

im guessing OP decided not to go ahead???

[lovbyts]

im guessing OP decided not to go ahead???

Wana bet? He did hear what he was looking for so he will show up on another board until someone tells him it's all good. He will be back here as a new member with new stats after he has problems asking for help like so many do.

[stpete]

If you're set on doing prop for your first cycle i suggest running it for 8 weeks @ 100mgs EOD. You don't need to run anything else w/this. Except for your AI and a much lower dose of HCG @ 250iu's 2xwk.

Start PCT 3 days after last pin, not 1 week. And that clomid dose is too much for me just for prop. Personally, if you just want to go w/one i'd go w/nolva. Both would be preferred though. It would go like this: Clomid-50/50/25/25 Nolva-40/40/20/20

That being said, i always recommend Test E for a first cycle for 12 weeks. Great cycle w/less pinning. But if you can take the EOD pinning, Prop is good.

Save that tren for another time. You'll get more out of it then cause you'll have some experience under your belt.

Good Luck and feel free to contact me again anytime you want if you think i can help.

[honeyking]

will go with TEST E cycle!

[MickeyKnox]

Smartest comment you've made. Good for you, you're learning. And you'll be happy you made a wise choice.

[lovbyts]

will go with TEST E cycle!

Very good, I like to be proven wrong. It's rare so it's quite refreshing. lol

[JohnnyVegas]

will go with TEST E cycle!

You should see great gains from that.