Please help!

[OKCity]

Guys help me out please.
I started out about 4.5 weeks ago with a gyno reversal. I used letro at 2.5 mg for 2 weeks. Completely eliminated my onset gyno. I tapered off in my third week by .5 mg until coming off completely. Then I began my nolva at 20mg for 2 weeks and today is the end of that 2 weeks. Woke up this morning and there is sensitivity in my left nipple...and what feels like a knot to be forming...HELP! Should I start letro again untill i feel this little knot go away then Try and combat this again with clomid AND nolva?

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I don't think the Clomid will do much for your tenderness in the nipples.

Using Tamox will stop the growth of breast tissue growing by binding to the estrogen receptor but not activating it. It will pretty much stop the growth of any breast tissue. You could use letro alongside of this. I noticed you said you stopped the letro and started the tamox, why not run them together.

I believe there is a gyno reversal thread in the PCT section with both this compounds.

What cycle and dosages did you run when you started noticing and causing this?

[MickeyKnox]

Using both the AI and SERM together seems to be the best protocol.

These are some ideas on how to combat gyno. These are merely ideas to help you make an informed decision. DO NOT blame me if these do not work, or you feel like crap. But these protocols have worked VERY well and combating and REVERSING gyno on many others here on this site and elsewhere.

Also, there is an effective protocol that includes Raloxifene and an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex.

Raloxifene is dosed typically at 60-80mgs/day. Your AI is similar to on cycle protocols.


C-Bino’s Gyno Reversal.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHmbMK7X_ft

Progesterone and prolactin induced gynecomastia

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...a#.UHl9KK7X_fu

Approach to the Patient with Gynecomastia

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/1/15.full

http://www.endotext.org/male/male14/male14.html

[OKCity]

I don't think the Clomid will do much for your tenderness in the nipples.

Using Tamox will stop the growth of breast tissue growing by binding to the estrogen receptor but not activating it. It will pretty much stop the growth of any breast tissue. You could use letro alongside of this. I noticed you said you stopped the letro and started the tamox, why not run them together.

I believe there is a gyno reversal thread in the PCT section with both this compounds.

What cycle and dosages did you run when you started noticing and causing this?

I thought of running them together. But I used c_binos thread "all you need to know about gyno" and this is what he recommended. Letro at the 2.5 mg shut my estrogen DOWN! I mean to unbelievable ranges. I knew of the estrogen rebound after coming off of it but in my thought I figured, by following it with nolva it would have helped with it.

I got all this from when I was deployed in Afghanistan. I ran an m-drol cycle @ 4 weeks. PCT then waited about 2 weeks and then hit a 4 week cycle of halo test both a 17-a-methyl-andro PH.

For the sterile reasons I chose this route of PH. Yes I know of all the bad shit it does, and NEVER again. It seems like iv spent longer dealing with sides than when I was on it.!

[JohnnnyBlazzze]

I don't have much knowledge on PH's but I would start to look around in the information Mick provided for you.

[OKCity]

Using both the AI and SERM together seems to be the best protocol.

These are some ideas on how to combat gyno. These are merely ideas to help you make an informed decision. DO NOT blame me if these do not work, or you feel like crap. But these protocols have worked VERY well and combating and REVERSING gyno on many others here on this site and elsewhere.

Also, there is an effective protocol that includes Raloxifene and an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex.

Raloxifene is dosed typically at 60-80mgs/day. Your AI is similar to on cycle protocols.

C-Bino's Gyno Reversal.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHmbMK7X_ft

Progesterone and prolactin induced gynecomastia

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...a#.UHl9KK7X_fu

Approach to the Patient with Gynecomastia

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/1/15.full

http://www.endotext.org/male/male14/male14.html

Yes iv read all these. I think you and I were discussing this with another guy on here who was recommending the raloxifene. I'm not against it, it's just tiresome trying different chems. To combat my issue when I had beautiful success with the letro, it's just that now I'm off of it, the estrogen rebound is kickin my ass!

I think what I will try is...running the letro again at 1.5mg along side the nolva @ 10mg per day for about a week. Come off the letro completely if the symptoms I have stop ie. sensitivity and what to me feels like a tiny grain of sand. Then follow on for another week with the nolva at 10mg.

That will put me total time on nolva for about 4 weeks, I shouldn't be concerned with bad sides here should I? Other than the obvious estrogen shutdown from the letro.

[MickeyKnox]

All i can say is, i believe that you would have better success if you include both an AI and a SERM together, and make sure you kill the gyno, not just prevent it from rebounding. This could mean that you run your protocol a couple weeks (or longer) after the gyno is gone.

This is simply my suggestion and its what i would do IF i had gyno. Fortunately, i have never had to do this..touch wood.

[OKCity]

All i can say is, i believe that you would have better success if you include both an AI and a SERM together, and make sure you kill the gyno, not just prevent it from rebounding. This could mean that you run your protocol a couple weeks (or longer) after the gyno is gone.

This is simply my suggestion and its what i would do IF i had gyno. Fortunately, i have never had to do this..touch wood.

Cool. Thx so much for the advise. That's what I'm going to do starting tonight is just run the AI and the SERM together. Until its GONE! I thought it was gone though felt no lump and no sensitivity after week 1.5 from the letro so I said I'll stay on it for another 5 days came off and ran the nolva, after week 2 of nolva I have a little not again. But I will win this battle!

[MickeyKnox]

Youre welcome. Good luck.