pull with 20g pin with 27 ok??

**realgear** · 11-17-2012, 01:04 PM

I'm in pulling with 20g I looked for a 25 or 26 all I can find is a 27 from WalMart or a 22 from pet supply will the 27 work for test e???

**MickeyKnox** · 11-17-2012, 01:11 PM

20g is fine to draw. 27g will work but it will take a bit longer to inject. I order all my pins from AR-R .

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-17-2012, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

20g is fine to draw. 27g will work but it will take a bit longer to inject. I order all my pins from AR-R .

I agree 27 is a bit small. It's fine, it will just take a while.

Maybe try 25 or even 23. I use 23 to pin.

**austinite** · 11-17-2012, 02:06 PM

27 gauge and you will be ready for your next injection by the time you're done. Only good if you can't control injecting too fast. 23g is best.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-17-2012, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

27 gauge and you will be ready for your next injection by the time you're done. Only good if you can't control injecting too fast. 23g is best.

lol!

**realgear** · 11-17-2012, 02:12 PM

Can I use 22 then thats the best I can get..
22 or 27 :-( nothing in between kinda crazy. but i guess thats all they give dogs and horses 27 is for diabetics or 22 for dog shots :-(

**austinite** · 11-17-2012, 02:13 PM

yes, 22 is fine. anything less is a harpoon.

**realgear** · 11-17-2012, 02:51 PM

I know last time I hit with a 20 and god did it hurt.

**Lunk1** · 11-17-2012, 02:57 PM

Your going to malke this cycle of your hard ALL the way through aren't you????

**Chx beach 79** · 11-17-2012, 04:14 PM

Pin with 23 g... You can't even feel it... 22g is basically the same...

**< <Samson> >** · 11-17-2012, 04:23 PM

I like 23ga, feels just fine and runs out smooth. 25ga is good too though.

Buy, your supplies in bulk or you will go broke.

**kolaking** · 11-17-2012, 04:23 PM

Accidently hit with an 18 (which is what I draw with) and it was pretty rough; i had forgot to transfer it to the 23g! If you have to use the 27 heat up the oil for less viscosity.

**austinite** · 11-17-2012, 04:25 PM

^ lol, how did you miss that gaping hole??

**Chx beach 79** · 11-17-2012, 04:27 PM

I can buy them at my local pharmacy with no prescription... It costs .39 cents US . Not cheap but not crazy either... I just told the pharmacist that I bought some injectable vitamin B 12, and no questions asked...

**< <Samson> >** · 11-17-2012, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Chx beach 79

I can buy them at my local pharmacy with no prescription... It costs .39 cents US . Not cheap but not crazy either... I just told the pharmacist that I bought some injectable vitamin B 12, and no questions asked...

Geez, the fools here just threw a big o bitch fit. Oh no, we can sell you those. You need a prescription - blah blah blah

**MuscleInk** · 11-17-2012, 04:43 PM

How has bore size not become a stickie yet? Where's Linkster (Mickey)? We need another link written because this gets asked all the time.

I never quite understand what all the stress is about. I've injected with 22, 25, 27 29, 31 (the last two for HGH only but subQ gear should work with the small gauge).

Everyone has a preference. I don't believe there is right or wrong choice. Needle length could be a more legitimate concern if you are too shallow, but bore size.......really!?!?

I use 25 and 27. It takes no more than 30-60 seconds depending on the volume I'm injecting. I never heat the gear even when I run more concentrated blends at 400mg/ml or higher.

Too many people stress about bore size. It's not as big an issue as its made out to be. If you can push gear and aren't leaving crater sized holes in yourself, you're good to go. Worry more about the needle length. Stop obsessing about bore size.

**kolaking** · 11-17-2012, 04:50 PM

Length is def more imp! I can tell a world of dif. using a 1 1/2" pin instesd of a 1" in the glutes.

**jamotech** · 11-17-2012, 05:19 PM

When searching for medical info on injecting, I usually come across training material for nurses. Ive read in a couple places that 1 1/2 or 2" is recommended for glutes. Id think someone would require very low body fat to even consider a`1".

**MuscleInk** · 11-17-2012, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by jamotech

When searching for medical info on injecting, I usually come across training material for nurses. Ive read in a couple places that 1 1/2 or 2" is recommended for glutes. Id think someone would require very low body fat to even consider a`1".

I would disagree. I've used 1" an 1 1/2" for glutes. They work equally well and in the majority of cases, 1" should suffice. If a person needs 2" to reach the Gluteus Maximus then their body fat is too high and they should not be using AASs in the first place.

**kelkel** · 11-17-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

How has bore size not become a stickie yet? Where's Linkster (Mickey)? We need another link written because this gets asked all the time.

I never quite understand what all the stress is about. I've injected with 22, 25, 27 29, 31 (the last two for HGH only but subQ gear should work with the small gauge).

Everyone has a preference. I don't believe there is right or wrong choice. Needle length could be a more legitimate concern if you are too shallow, but bore size.......really!?!?

I use 25 and 27. It takes no more than 30-60 seconds depending on the volume I'm injecting. I never heat the gear even when I run more concentrated blends at 400mg/ml or higher.

Too many people stress about bore size. It's not as big an issue as its made out to be. If you can push gear and aren't leaving crater sized holes in yourself, you're good to go. Worry more about the needle length. Stop obsessing about bore size.

Agree with MI. I don't go below 25 and just picked up some 27 ga 1/2 inch for delts. Smaller gauge forces a slower push which is what you want. Hell, I'll do SQ Test injections with a 31ga pin with no issue whatsoever. What's the rush?

**Lunk1** · 11-17-2012, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Agree with MI. I don't go below 25 and just picked up some 27 ga 1/2 inch for delts. Smaller gauge forces a slower push which is what you want. Hell, I'll do SQ Test injections with a 31ga pin with no issue whatsoever. What's the rush?

This is what I never get? The difference equates to seconds. I never pin if I don't have the ability to take my time, be relaxed and make sure precautions have been taken!

**incipio** · 11-17-2012, 05:38 PM

why is this even a thread you can buy everything you need offline....

**Far from massive** · 11-17-2012, 05:46 PM

Agree with both posts above on gauge.

I also use 25 by 1 to pin, I have no trouble pinning any area with a 1 inch length but I am sure my fat layer on my ass is a lot less than the average Joe's. To me it seems like it would do a ton less damage to pin slowly so that the AAS can migrate through the muscle tissue.

I also think that its a bad idea to use too much information on doing IM injections from nursing sites, you gotta keep in mind the main goal with a patient is to jam the pin and mash the shit home before the patient has time to panic and start complaining. For us we do not have these same issues.