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    stronger1986 is offline New Member
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    Next cycle advice

    So I just wraped up my first cycle and couldn't be more pleased. I did augment beyond the advice given.





    Weeks 1-2 Oral Dbol 50mg 2 hours post workout

    Weeks 1-10 Test. E. 250mg twice a week

    While I was in the PCT window period I augmented with clen buterol





    Now I'm going into 5-6 weeks of PCT using Clomi/and Nolva in tandem



    I gained 30 pounds old solid mass on this stuff but I was constantly fatigued and lacked motivation. I Kept apps on my ipone to track my progress in the gym and my diet. I feel I received a ton out of this cycle but it was taxing!





    Finally I have 2 questions - How soon can I initiate a stronger cycle. I'd like to see some cardiovascular recovery, full and natural testosterone production endogenously.




    When I am there I want to be ready to jump right back in. Steroids .com show what appears to be a well managed cycle for a guy like me.



    \http://www.steroid.com/Intermediate-...-Cycles-II.php





    ANY FEEDBACK GOOD OR BAD PLASE

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    did you use an AI during this cycle?

    and 50mg of dbol post workout? what was the point of this? if your going to use dbol, use it either pre workout, or throughout the whole day, eg. split your dosage up into 3x a day.

    what is the goal of your 2nd cycle? which btw you shouldn't start til say 4-5 months after you've finished PCT...

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    What were your starting and ending stats? I doubt you will keep that entire 30 lbs you gained unless you gained alot of BF. Plan onlosing nearly half of it...just reality!

    "rule of thumb" is time on+PCT=time off this means 18 weeks MINIMUM off! Blood work would be the best way of determining if you are ready or not.

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    You've had two great answers there. I was going to say that you shouldn't do more than two courses a year. So 6months for course+Pct+ time off. As Lunk said, bloodwork is the best indicator.

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    Why a stronger cycle? You can run the same one again and see results again. No need to increase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo View Post
    Why a stronger cycle? You can run the same one again and see results again. No need to increase.
    Absolutely agree.

    OP, read this: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...into-your-dose!!

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    The dbol was a typo I was using it 2 hours prior to working out, also no I wasn't using an ai throughout the first cycle.

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    The general rule is time on+PCT=Time off but i would run labs 30-60 days out from PCT to make sure you have recovered. Did you run labs before starting your cycle to get a baseline?

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    Agree with above.

    But on your next cycle make sure you include an AI and hCG on cycle.


    Most Common Beginners Cycles

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    You did Dbol for 2 weeks then quit.Just in time for it to kick in.WHY? Not to mention 50mg

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