1st cycle questions

[Durge]

Due to the fact that everyone has different information and most people on these forums are bropharmacists it's hard to understand what's the best dosages of what compounds. I'm thinking of running a 12 week cycle of some form of testosterone (which one is better?) and also stack it with another compound since the first cycle is always the best might aswel benefit most from it. I'm also thinking torem and hcg for pct (but again everyone is saying different dosages and durations, arggg).

Btw I've been training for 6 years I've plateaued fully and I always wanted to take gear but waited until I have a solid base. My diet is all clean (bran cereal, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, egg whites, chicken breasts, frozen veggies, etc) and I count calories and protein although I do not have the perfect bodybuilding macro percentages.

So can you guys suggest a beginner test cycle and a pct? I've done alot of research but there is alot of conflicting information so don't flame me on this hahaha.

[MickeyKnox]

Welcome.

[New2game305]

Due to the fact that everyone has different information and most people on these forums are bropharmacists it's hard to understand what's the best dosages of what compounds. I'm thinking of running a 12 week cycle of some form of testosterone (which one is better?) and also stack it with another compound since the first cycle is always the best might aswel benefit most from it. I'm also thinking torem and hcg for pct (but again everyone is saying different dosages and durations, arggg).

Btw I've been training for 6 years I've plateaued fully and I always wanted to take gear but waited until I have a solid base. My diet is all clean (bran cereal, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, egg whites, chicken breasts, frozen veggies, etc) and I count calories and protein although I do not have the perfect bodybuilding macro percentages.

So can you guys suggest a beginner test cycle and a pct? I've done alot of research but there is alot of conflicting information so don't flame me on this hahaha.

Do a bit more research, I'm not a Vet. But that's what was told to me in the beginning and I must admit it helps. I can help you out with a few questions as much as I know so far,

what do your stats look like so far-> height, weight, BF% etc. ?

What are your goals on this cycle?

If you've read then you'd know 98% of most Vet. In here would not suggest you stack compounds on the first time.

[Capebuffalo]

Stats?
Test only first cycle.
What ai will you run?
How much hcg?
What is your pct?
Thank you and welcome

[Durge]

That's what I'm trying to figure out, and 5ft11 around 220 with abs showing but not full abs

[Capebuffalo]

That's what I'm trying to figure out, and 5ft11 around 220 with abs showing but not full abs

Do you have an age on yourself?

[Capebuffalo]

Body fat %

[Chx beach 79]

Try this...

[New2game305]

That's what I'm trying to figure out, and 5ft11 around 220 with abs showing but not full abs

Lol dude answer the stats we asked for? Better yet the ones capebuffalo asked for he's a Vet

[Durge]

I don't know my bf%, am trying to get an appointment to have that checked out, and I'm 22

[Durge]

15% according to that pic (I'm cutting)

[Durge]

new2game305 have you even done steroids yet?

[Chx beach 79]

Your way to young... Only 7 more years... You would be better off just eating and working out for about 6-7 more years...

[Durge]

I heard 25 is a good age to start, maybe 3 more years?

[New2game305]

new2game305 have you even done steroids yet?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cles-Look-here

Like I said I'm no veteran but I am trying to help you as much as I've learned from reading, my first cycle starts in a week, and I got the "read first before coming on the board" messages. If you'd like look at my threads and that should help you out a bit, if you follow that link I'm giving you it will answer most of your questions.

[Chx beach 79]

I heard 25 is a good age to start, maybe 3 more years?

It says 18 on your profile...

[Capebuffalo]

Start with the educational threads. Learn as much as you can from them.
I will admit its a little confusing. But come with specific questions and you will get a far better response.

[Durge]

It says 18 on your profile...

yeah I don't know what it says on my profile but this is a forum about something illegal in my country so I probably wrote that because of that

[Chx beach 79]

yeah I don't know what it says on my profile but this is a forum about something illegal in my country so I probably wrote that because of that

Gotcha... No worries... You are already pretty big at 5'11' 220 15 bf% good stats for 22... Without ever cycling...

[Capebuffalo]

yeah I don't know what it says on my profile but this is a forum about something illegal in my country so I probably wrote that because of that

That doesn't make any sense. So it illegal. And you put 18 so you are legally an adult doing something illegal.


Diet and training is what you need to concern yourself with right now.

[Chx beach 79]

That doesn't make any sense. So it illegal. And you put 18 so you are legally an adult doing something illegal.

Diet and training is what you need to concern yourself with right now.

Yeah and being honest with yourself... Your stats could be bogus for all we know..

[Durge]

Yeah I'm not even gonna bother with gear, I'm already at my genetic max which means I'll have to keep cycling to keep any gains above it (which is very bad for you in the long-run), and plus as soon as I start using people will disregard my natural training years and attribute it all to gear, plus you guys are not doctors so you can't know the best dosages of these serious compounds, let's face it, this is brophamacology, too sketchy for me, plus I have no idea where and how these compounds were made since they are not legal and made in some sketchy lab by some guy... Screw this I'm staying natty

[Chx beach 79]

No worries man... Keep up the hard work!

[Chx beach 79]

Good luck!

[Durge]

Alright thanks

[MickeyKnox]

Chx, I feel your frustration bro but you'll have to edit those last two posts, for youre own protection as well. We have a no flaming policy. Thanks man.

[Chx beach 79]

No worries

[Durge]

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[MickeyKnox]

Durge could you please edit your quote so that it does not reflect Chx's frustration that he apologized for. No need to have that in this thread as it serves no purpose and only detracts from your goals.

Thanks a lot.

[Juced_porkchop]

Due to the fact that everyone has different information and most people on these forums are bropharmacists it's hard to understand what's the best dosages of what compounds. I'm thinking of running a 12 week cycle of some form of testosterone (which one is better?) and also stack it with another compound since the first cycle is always the best might aswel benefit most from it. I'm also thinking torem and hcg for pct (but again everyone is saying different dosages and durations, arggg).

Btw I've been training for 6 years I've plateaued fully and I always wanted to take gear but waited until I have a solid base. My diet is all clean (bran cereal, whole wheat pasta, brown rice, egg whites, chicken breasts, frozen veggies, etc) and I count calories and protein although I do not have the perfect bodybuilding macro percentages.

So can you guys suggest a beginner test cycle and a pct? I've done alot of research but there is alot of conflicting information so don't flame me on this hahaha.

1st) neve ruse HCG IN pct. during cycle or leading up to pct (BUT NOT into it) may help.
2) pct: I rec 4 weeks of clomid and tamox if possible say: clomi 70/70/35/35mg Tamox 40/30/20/20mg
3) cycle i would rec 400-600mg teste or cyp for 12-14 weeks ( i rec 14 weeks myself) and start pct 1-2 weeks after last pin.
4) whats your STATS?

[xtac971]

I would choose Sust. since its a mix of tests.

[xtac971]

or Deca is pretty good

[MickeyKnox]

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Thank you sir.

[Capebuffalo]

or Deca is pretty good

Please refrain from advise like this.
Thank you