1st cycle SD Gyno HELP! Plz

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 09:23 PM

I'm really hoping someone with experience or knowledge will help me out here.

Well I have mild gyno right now its not very bad but lets go over my story first.
Okay I did my first cycle it was a superdrol cycle (Beastdrol), I did alot of research planning that cycle thinking that If I knew what I was doing I would be fine. Okay it was legit however my nolvadex for pct must have been underdosed or fake which is how I just ending up with gyno.
I've had gyno for about 2 months now.

Is there still a chance to reverse this or shrink it? I have been doing research and have seen people saying to run letro then nolvadex.
I do not want my gyno to get any worst, like right now my gyno is LIVABLE if it stays this size but I don't like it. Will this gyno keep growing or is it done growing?

Okay well I don't know what to do should I go to the doctor and just tell him I did a cycle or what?
The only thing I'm afraid of is trying to fix my gyno and end up making it worst than before!

Please do not comment if you are just going to lie to make a profile this is serious I don't want to live my whole life with gyno.
I know about surgery but its expensive as hell.

Any thoughts? Oh one more thing I do have a bottle of SD + DMZ downstairs, I wasn't planning on touching it but should I take that with letro to counter the low test or should I just run letro and nolva with no cycle?

Like I said its 2 months past my cycle, what do you think should I go to the doctor? Someone help me out here.
Oh and my profile picture is old when I didn't have gyno, I have gyno not super noticable but its there and YES ITS GYNO its a damn lump and was hurting like a bitch.

**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 09:26 PM

I'm tired and didn't read the entire thing but skimmed and seems you want to reverse gyno.

Ralox is the most effective drug for reversing gyno. You would need to dose @ 60 to 80 mg until it's gone. This could take some time, months maybe.

If you can't get ahold of that, you can try Nolvadex , frontload your first week with 40mg daily, and then use half that dose until gone.

Best of luck.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 09:29 PM

I never looked into Ralox I've seen that word on other sites but I've always herd letrozole to be the most effective?
Do you thinks its possible for me to just try nolvadex out first is there any possiblity that nolvadex could work by itself?

**toppinm** · 11-21-2012, 09:31 PM

Letro should do the trick.

**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 09:32 PM

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**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

I never looked into Ralox I've seen that word on other sites but I've always herd letrozole to be the most effective?
Do you thinks its possible for me to just try nolvadex out first is there any possiblity that nolvadex could work by itself?

Yes. Try nolva. 40/20/20/20/20/20... etc..

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 09:40 PM

This is off cycle btw just to clear that up. So what is it lol Nolva, Letro, or Ralox?
So none of you think a doctor can do anything?
One thing I don't want to happen is mess up with any of these substances and make the gyno worst.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 09:47 PM

...... my tits are on the line here ......

**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 09:50 PM

^ what else do you need bro??

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 09:56 PM

Well wtf its my body do you think I'm just going to take one sentence and start ordering stuff, easy to say when your not the one who has to figure out what to take and whos lying or whos advice is the best. One person said letro, your saying Ralox, then you said nolva. Most people say letro and nolva however I've read that you can get rebound from letro and nolva. You would think out of all the people on this site that someone would have had gyno before and knows about this stuff and could say what they rid.
I also wanted to know if the doctor could do anything.

**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

Well wtf its my body do you think I'm just going to take one sentence and start ordering stuff, easy to say when your not the one who has to figure out what to take and whos lying or whos advice is the best. One person said letro, your saying Ralox, then you said nolva. Most people say letro and nolva however I've read that you can get rebound from letro and nolva. You would think out of all the people on this site that someone would have had gyno before and knows about this stuff and could say what they rid.
I also wanted to know if the doctor could do anything.

I apologize, didn't mean to get you worked up.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:08 PM

Yes I'm crying and sucking on my thumb. No but forreal its super hard my brain is super ****ed up right now because I just got $$$ I'm supposed to be buying stuff for my stuido but now I have to deal with this gyno crap, I don't know if I should just deal with it and forget about it. I'm kind of wondering if I just get in super super good shape if it won't be noticable.

One thing though, Do you know if gyno gets worst or will it stay the same? Like I said its been like 2 months, my nipples don't hurt now like they did when It first started. I'm just wondering if my gyno will stay this size and not grow because if it stays this size I can deal with that but I don't want it to get any bigger.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-21-2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

Well wtf its my body do you think I'm just going to take one sentence and start ordering stuff, easy to say when your not the one who has to figure out what to take and whos lying or whos advice is the best. One person said letro, your saying Ralox, then you said nolva. Most people say letro and nolva however I've read that you can get rebound from letro and nolva. You would think out of all the people on this site that someone would have had gyno before and knows about this stuff and could say what they rid.
I also wanted to know if the doctor could do anything.

If you dont like the answer then start doing your own homework and stop expecting others to do it for you! Read! Put some goddamn time in for Christ's sakes.

Sorry to be harsh but get real will ya? This isn't a Whataburger where you order people to get your information for you. Smarten up and respect those that are trying to help you.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:13 PM

Um its kind of hard when I already did 4 days of research staying up 24/7 just to get conflicting arguments.
I would rather have someone with experience tell me how they got rid or reduced they gyno then try to do research 24/7 looking at words not knowing who the person is and having to make a decision between 40 peoples ideas.

Out of everyone who is on here I'm sure someone had to try to go to the doctor or at least attempt to reduce their gyno. I'm sorry that I'm not the type to just go with the first thing that is typed down and like to have more than 2 peoples perspective.

**toppinm** · 11-21-2012, 10:16 PM

Maybe you should go to the doctor and cut out the middleman since you're so reluctant. If the advice is three different compounds then they will probably all work don't over think it.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:16 PM

So Okay then this is the only question I have then : IS THE GYNO I HAVE NOW done growing it has been 2 months that I had gyno its look about the same I guess. I just want to know if it grows or will it just stay the same as long as I don't touch any more ph's or steroids

**MotoLifter** · 11-21-2012, 10:17 PM

^^^ knew this was coming from someone eventually lmao. Agreed, 6 posts and getting belligerent already.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-21-2012, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

Um its kind of hard when I already did 4 days of research staying up 24/7 just to get conflicting arguments.
I would rather have someone with experience tell me how they got rid or reduced they gyno then try to do research 24/7 looking at words not knowing who the person is and having to make a decision between 40 peoples ideas.

Out of everyone who is on here I'm sure someone had to try to go to the doctor or at least attempt to reduce their gyno. I'm sorry that I'm not the type to just go with the first thing that is typed down and like to have more than 2 peoples perspective.

4 whole days huh? You must be worn out.

These are some ideas on how to combat gyno. These are merely ideas to help you make an informed decision. Do NOT blame me if these do not work, or you feel like crap. But these protocols have worked VERY well and combating and REVERSING gyno on many others here on this site and elsewhere.

Also, there is an effective protocol that includes Raloxifene and an AI like Aromasin or Arimidex .

Raloxifene is dosed typically at 60-80mgs/day as Austinite already suggested earlier. Your AI is similar to on cycle protocols.

C-Bino’s Gyno Reversal.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UHmbMK7X_ft

Progesterone and prolactin induced gynecomastia

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...a#.UHl9KK7X_fu

Approach to the Patient with Gynecomastia

http://jcem.endojournals.org/content/96/1/15.full

http://www.endotext.org/male/male14/male14.html

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:17 PM

I don't know what I should say to the doctor though lol, I guess just tell him I did a cycle since technically it was legal at the time because superdrol is now banned I do believe. But I'm wondering if the doctor can help me out or if hell just tell me to screw off.

**MotoLifter** · 11-21-2012, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

If you dont like the answer then start doing your own homework and stop expecting others to do it for you! Read! Put some goddamn time in for Christ's sakes.

Sorry to be harsh but get real will ya? This isn't a Whataburger where you order people to get your information for you. Smarten up and respect those that are trying to help you.

^^^ knew this was coming eventually lmao. Agreed, 6 posts and already belligerent.

**austinite** · 11-21-2012, 10:19 PM

The longer you wait the closer you will get to needing surgery. I don't recommend using AI's to reverse gyno (although some have succeeded). Serms is the way to go, and yes. I have experience and it works if it's caught in the early stages.

Hopefully more folks will chime in.

Good luck.

**toppinm** · 11-21-2012, 10:20 PM

It dosen't matter if it's illegal or not he still has an obligation to help you. But you'll feel silly when you waste time and $$ and he tells you the same thing everyone here has.

**Shsm** · 11-21-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

Yes I'm crying and sucking on my thumb. No but forreal its super hard my brain is super ****ed up right now because I just got $$$ I'm supposed to be buying stuff for my stuido but now I have to deal with this gyno crap, I don't know if I should just deal with it and forget about it. I'm kind of wondering if I just get in super super good shape if it won't be noticable.

One thing though, Do you know if gyno gets worst or will it stay the same? Like I said its been like 2 months, my nipples don't hurt now like they did when It first started. I'm just wondering if my gyno will stay this size and not grow because if it stays this size I can deal with that but I don't want it to get any bigger.

...You've been on Superdrol for 2 months?

**MickeyKnox** · 11-21-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

I don't know what I should say to the doctor though lol, I guess just tell him I did a cycle since technically it was legal at the time because superdrol is now banned I do believe. But I'm wondering if the doctor can help me out or if hell just tell me to screw off.

Your doc will not tell you to screw off but you may horse f*** yourself for down the road with your ins company or other claims that may be complicated by the fact that you used AAS. Keep it under your hat for now.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:21 PM

You can put in alot of research in 4 days. And 4 days sounds small but keep in mind I had to do months of research to plan my cycle out and research all that other crap so I have understanding of somethings just not the gyno part because I would never have dreamed in a million years that me out of everyone would get gyno, I'm like the luckest person but I guess my luck ran out. And I already seen C binos before I even came here I was hoping to hear something different or the same. I usually go with something that seems to add up or something that I hear over and over and over and over.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-21-2012, 10:22 PM

Youre welcome. Im out.

Good luck.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:22 PM

No I only used it for 4 weeks then stopped, then went into pct for 4 weeks. My gyno seemed to come a couple weeks later after pct was done for some reason. I've had gyno for 2 months.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:23 PM

Well okay, I guess I'll just try a serm first and hope it works. Is 2 months long when it comes to gyno?

Well anyways the only thing I'm worried about now is if I use the serm I WANT TO AVOID rebounding from the serm.

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:24 PM

I was hoping that the doctor would prescribe legit things because last time I got some bunk crap.

**Shsm** · 11-21-2012, 10:24 PM

Oh ok, well I'm going to bed. Best of luck and ease up on the attitude...I realize its a big deal but that's not the way to get help. Austinite and MickeyKnox deserve respect...they don't get paid for this.

Later...

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:29 PM

Humm... Guess I'll just try nolva or ralox

**Xternal** · 11-21-2012, 10:51 PM

Okay So I just decided I'll try nolvadex ,
Can someone lay out a doseage and how not to get rebound then I will be g2g and you can kiss my ass goodbye

**EarlyMuscles** · 11-22-2012, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by Xternal

Okay So I just decided I'll try nolvadex ,
Can someone lay out a doseage and how not to get rebound then I will be g2g and you can kiss my ass goodbye

I would run the nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20...etc until the gyno seems to have been reversed and keep it running at 10 for a little after to make sure of no rebound