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**Gmill13** · 05-05-2003, 03:41 PM

I start May 12th
Stats. 2nd cycle, 185 lbs, 5"10 BF around 15-16%
24 yoa.

1-10 Eq @ 400 bi weekls
1-10 Sust @ 500 bi weekly (yes I know, I should use a single ester instead, this is all I got so I dont mind)
1-10 Fina @ 75 ed
10-13 HCG @500 IUS daily.
3 weeks later Clomid

Also have Bromo and Nolva in case of emergency.

Or I will run this

1-10 EQ @ 400
1-10 Sust @ 500
3-13 Fina @ 75 ed
11-13 hcg 500 Ius daily.
clomid day after last fina shot.

Whats a better cycle to run? Would love some criticism. HAs anyone ran a cycle simalar? how did it go?
Thanks.
Gary

**big N** · 05-05-2003, 03:46 PM

the second obviously !!!!!!its common sence bro,u have fina 3 weeks past the last test and eq hit so u dont wait for clomid ,and ru run hcg the lsat 2 weeks during ur cycle not after like in the first one then it actually supresses the hpta ,loks good go for it

**motoxxxguy** · 05-05-2003, 03:47 PM

I would definitely run the second option. The doses you would be getting biweekly would not be worth using at all, not to mention the fluctuations of your blood levels. Go with the second.

-moto

**Gmill13** · 05-05-2003, 03:50 PM

Yeah I figured the second I like that one alot. Only thing I am a little leary about is running the FINA for 10 weeks, Anyone out there have experience with 10 weeks of Fina? how were your Kidneys&blood pressure, or any other side effects ?
I cant wait to start this shit!

**Got Gear?** · 05-05-2003, 04:22 PM

I'm 10 weeks into a 13week fina cycle (450mg/wk) no problems so far. Feel great.

I like the 2nd option better as well. BTW hCG shouldn't be needed for that cycle, but can't hurt anything.

**iron4life79** · 05-05-2003, 04:49 PM

i'm with the all the big boys above.........that 2nd cycle looks good bro, nice job.

peace I4L

**big N** · 05-05-2003, 05:02 PM

got gear ur right and wrong ,since hes running fina i would definately run it,as im sure u know it shuts u down harder then anything else,so it does help recovery ,the faster u recover the more gains u keep.

**Got Gear?** · 05-05-2003, 05:44 PM

You are correct big N.

However, I bought hCG for my current cycle.

600mg/wk test
300mg/wk Deca
350mg/wk Fina

I'm on week 10, only fina for the next 3 weeks. With both Deca and Fina in the cycle I was expecting to get shut down hard. But at week 10, my boys are still 80-90% of their original size. Everyone is different tho, and like I said.. it can't hurt.

**big N** · 05-05-2003, 06:51 PM

got gear bro ur avery brave soul!running both of them togethr,and the fact that progesterone would be a key factor aswell ,i was actully debating to run fina toward the end of my current one i just strted.

**Gmill13** · 05-05-2003, 07:08 PM

Thanks fpr the feedback guys! Im def going to run the second cycle and I will do the Fina for 10 weeks, The main reason I got HCG was because I wanted to run Fian for Ten. I caint wait to grow.