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11-22-2012, 03:56 PM #1New Member
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HCG issues while on TEST+TREN(progestins in general)
Ok I know this may sound almost paranoic, but....
let's say I'm planning some kind of standard TEST-E + TREN -E 12weeks cycle
Now I usually use HCG basically all the way through my cycle starting almost from the very beginnin of it (in the range of 250iu/300iu E3D) up untill begginning of PCT, which in this particular case would be 12days roughly after last pin.....
I was instructed (and read in many discussion) that I should be using HCG always with little amount (20mg) of Tamoxifen in order to avoid LH desensitization
I know that TRENBOLONE (progestins) and TAMOXIFEN don't really get along too much (fostering receptiveness of progestin), so it's a must to avoid the combination of the two
-Would then clomid work instead, or would it trigger eventually the same issues?
-Is it dangerous to be on HCG for 10weeks with no help from a SERM to boost LH production and avoid desensitization?
Am I being paranoic?
Thanks a lot to y'all for the support
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11-22-2012, 04:08 PM #2
Save the Nolva for PCT, not during cycle.
Grab some Caber or Prami to counter-act against PRL sides.
Noticed you don't have an AI. Get some Aromasin or Adex to control your estrogen.
HCG is good for testicular atrophy and helps boost your recovery in PCT but does nothing to help control your E2 or PRL levels.
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11-22-2012, 04:11 PM #3Banned
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hCG and Pregnenolone; What you should know.
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJWP6mfX_fs
HCG FAQ
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...Pregnyl%29-FAQ
Estrogen Control, Treatment, and PCT
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t#.UJSEImfX_fs
SERM, AI
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-AI-Definition
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11-22-2012, 04:30 PM #4Banned
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11-22-2012, 06:25 PM #5
Some anecdotal evidence for you: I have been using hCG at 300-400iu twice a week for two years straight as a part of my TRT protocol. No problems. I don't think you are going to have any problems running it for 12 weeks or a bit longer.
I do see 250iu twice a week recommended all the time, so it is probably fine for you to drop your dose a bit if you are still concerned.
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