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    An Alternative to Aspirating...for self-injection in the delts...is this a good idea?

    happy turkey day to all the American researchers.

    like that classic song "i just want to celebrate another day of living"

    title: An Alternative to Aspirating...for self-injection in the delts...is this a good idea?


    I have to self-inject since i don't have ppl who can help me.

    I tried aspirating in my delts with 1 hand...sometimes i'm successful...MORE OFTEN: i am not successful
    Here's the heart, MAIN PART of my question:
    Instead of aspirating with 1 hand when I pin my shoulder, can I just push the 1 inch needle that I use all the way in, then pull it out and wait...AND...if I see blood coming out of that puncture hole, then I'd choose a different area in my shoulder and repeat, and if I don't see any blood at that different spot, THEN can I re-insert into that same exact, blood-less spot then push down the plunger thereby releasing the A.A.S. juice into my shoulder?

    This would seem to be another way of aspirating without pulling the plunger back with 1 hand to see if there's any blood in the syringe.

    Do u fellow bros-in-iron agree that this is a safe alternative?

    As an aside, and a minor question:
    ...also I use Testoviron Depot in ampules, it's REAL OILY so if I don't aspirate, I'll get that pesky Test Flu if it gets shot directly or indirectly into my blood stream if i nick a vessel. Would running the glass ampules under real hot water help loosen up the oil. *I would think that if the juice was hot it would be conducive to an infection?

    thanks on this thanksgiving for any constructive help



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    So you want to pin, then withdraw the needle, then if there's no blood pin again in that same spot?

    Just trying to understand this correctly.

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    Not a good idea... Can you pin somewhere else that you will have more control of your hands? Like quads or glutes? Also heat won't help with infections!!! Just always use clean needles!!! Trust me...

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    The only way I can answer this without being a dik is ....asperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    That's a horrible idea brother. Practice aspirating with one hand on an apple or another object with the needle hole glued shut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    The only way I can answer this without being a dik is ....asperate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Lunk you eaten yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chx beach 79 View Post
    Lunk you eaten yet?
    Yes...about 5 hours ago...now I am getting hungry and brought home no leftovers (on purpose)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Yes...about 5 hours ago...now I am getting hungry and brought home no leftovers (on purpose)
    Yeah I definitely had my cheat day! Even tough I hammered about 200 grams of protein in about I probably I had equal sugars and fats!!! Back on it tomorrow!

    Btw... Sorry to hijack...

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    Thanks to you all. The upper outer chest is another area im going to try thank to johnnyblaze. it seems like the best area over which a researcher would have control for aspiration...but i will also practice on an orange/apple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MakeUpLostTimeFast View Post
    happy turkey day to all the American researchers.

    like that classic song "i just want to celebrate another day of living"

    title: An Alternative to Aspirating...for self-injection in the delts...is this a good idea?


    I have to self-inject since i don't have ppl who can help me.

    I tried aspirating in my delts with 1 hand...sometimes i'm successful...MORE OFTEN: i am not successful
    Here's the heart, MAIN PART of my question:
    Instead of aspirating with 1 hand when I pin my shoulder, can I just push the 1 inch needle that I use all the way in, then pull it out and wait...AND...if I see blood coming out of that puncture hole, then I'd choose a different area in my shoulder and repeat, and if I don't see any blood at that different spot, THEN can I re-insert into that same exact, blood-less spot then push down the plunger thereby releasing the A.A.S. juice into my shoulder?

    This would seem to be another way of aspirating without pulling the plunger back with 1 hand to see if there's any blood in the syringe.

    Do u fellow bros-in-iron agree that this is a safe alternative?

    As an aside, and a minor question:
    ...also I use Testoviron Depot in ampules, it's REAL OILY so if I don't aspirate, I'll get that pesky Test Flu if it gets shot directly or indirectly into my blood stream if i nick a vessel. Would running the glass ampules under real hot water help loosen up the oil. *I would think that if the juice was hot it would be conducive to an infection?

    thanks on this thanksgiving for any constructive help



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    Absolutely not. 9 times out of 10 when you remove the needle blood will be visible on the surface because of the blood vessels that the needle passes through and punctures or veins that you may have nicked.

    Having said that, i rarely see blood on the surface after i pin my glutes. But that's because i have it down to a science, and thats no bro science either.

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    Op your question Is ridiculous .....aspirating is easy anywhere and takes no time at all, if you were able to reach to pin urself there, you can aspirate
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    While we're on the topic for the first time today I aspirated blood, now in the past I have nicked many veins had blood squirt out of the injection site, had oil leak into veins causing me to go Into horrible coughing fits not being able to breath turning white, sweating and feeling a 100 degrees Celsius, but not once have I sat directly in a vein until today, so thank fk for aspirating, I don't know how much went into my blood the few other times that it must of leaked in somehow, but I was about to pin 1.5ml of water and oil based straight in one.

    Don't be an idiot aspirate!!

    This was a glute injection btw
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    Op if you are capable of sticking the needle into your shoulder, your are certainly capable of aspirating as well. It's not going to fall out if you loosen your grip a bit and re-adjust your hand/fingers. A thought: Remove the pin from one of your syringes, place it (syringe) against your shoulder as if injecting and practice! Aspirating is just a very slight pull back on the plunger where you feel back-pressure. It barely has to move and you will see the fluid in the barrel move. No blood = G2G. If you were in a vein the plunger will fly back when you pull with virtually no back pressure.

    You'll be just fine!

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    To the OP

    Bad idea, by retracting the pin you have made it less sharp and more likely to create scar tissue at re-insert. I shoot delts and can aspirate just fine, albeit the one handed nature of it does tend to cause a tilt.

    However, a friend of mine uses a different method that seems to work. Remove the cannon (after loading the syringe and pushing the oil all the way until a bead appears at the tip of the pin). Then replace it with a smaller pin, and dont push the oil all the way up into the small empty area around the collar of the pin. Once you inject, if you hit a vein or nick an artery, the blood should come rushing right into the collar from the arterial pressure. If not, you'll just push some a tiny amount of air into the muscle. I personally don't like the approach because the whole idea of air bubbles injected into the body is slightly scary. But my friend has been doing it for almost 20 yrs and hasnt dropped dead yet lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneInTheMembrane View Post
    To the OP

    Bad idea, by retracting the pin you have made it less sharp and more likely to create scar tissue at re-insert. I shoot delts and can aspirate just fine, albeit the one handed nature of it does tend to cause a tilt.

    However, a friend of mine uses a different method that seems to work. Remove the cannon (after loading the syringe and pushing the oil all the way until a bead appears at the tip of the pin). Then replace it with a smaller pin, and dont push the oil all the way up into the small empty area around the collar of the pin. Once you inject, if you hit a vein or nick an artery, the blood should come rushing right into the collar from the arterial pressure. If not, you'll just push some a tiny amount of air into the muscle. I personally don't like the approach because the whole idea of air bubbles injected into the body is slightly scary. But my friend has been doing it for almost 20 yrs and hasnt dropped dead yet lol
    The amount of air needed to cause any harm is alot more than a small air bubble...television myths

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    Our brothers have nailed this for you. Aspirate! Your proposed method is a very bad idea.

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    I can't believe what I just read...

    If you have a thumb, you can aspirate.

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    Many like to leave a 1/4" or so of the needle showing above the skin, it can be hard to maintain this position while aspirating/injecting.

    If this is what you are doing try this technique instead. Simply push the 1 inch pin all the way in (Unless you have really small delts, in this case use a 3/4"). Then while holding pressure against the delt with the syringe body you can pull back the plunger.

    This is a lot easier than trying to leave a little bit of the needle showing while aspirating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    Many like to leave a 1/4" or so of the needle showing above the skin, it can be hard to maintain this position while aspirating/injecting.

    If this is what you are doing try this technique instead. Simply push the 1 inch pin all the way in (Unless you have really small delts, in this case use a 3/4"). Then while holding pressure against the delt with the syringe body you can pull back the plunger.

    This is a lot easier than trying to leave a little bit of the needle showing while aspirating.
    thanks everyone for your input. i haven't forgotten to thank you and have no followed up on this post after a couple of days.

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