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    You will always know or find out if you have an abscess. An abscess is from an infection. the term abscess means that you have accumulated a pocket or a mass of pus. Pus is the abscess and pus is causes by infection. An abscess of any kind will be very painful at that site. It will eventually turn color. It will get harder and harder and more sensitive to the touch or movement very quickly due to being an infection. If an abbess always seek medical attention and at least a regiment of antibiotics. ....crazy mike


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    Its important to keep in mind that abscess rarely heal themselves. They require medical intervention which always includes antibiotics and possibly surgery. The cardinal symptoms and signs of abscess are redness, heat, swelling, pain and loss of function. These symptoms are usually severe in nature as opposed to the mild soreness/redness one experiences for few days after injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluPhin View Post
    Its important to keep in mind that abscess rarely heal themselves. They require medical intervention which always includes antibiotics and possibly surgery. The cardinal symptoms and signs of abscess are redness, heat, swelling, pain and loss of function. These symptoms are usually severe in nature as opposed to the mild soreness/redness one experiences for few days after injection.
    I just wanted to add a few things. Key signs of cellulitis, which is not often followed by abscess formation but cellulitis almost always precedes it, include local heat/warmth, tenderness to touch, local swelling, localized redness over affected area, and often at least a low grade fever. Abscesses have similar signs but will almost always be accompanied by high fevers, and palpable tender mass at the affected site, chills, sweats - basically you'll be very sick. There are exceptions and variations but these are general signs and symptoms of cellulitis and subq abscesses.

    Cellulutis can sometimes heal itself but this is highly suggested against as complications can ensue such as abscess formation, sepsis, and permanent loss of tissue via surgical debridement Often cellulitis can be difficult to distinguish from site irritation. When in doubt its probably best to see a doctor, especially if fever is present, symptoms are significant, and symptoms are getting worse or not improving. Abscesses will always need antibiotics (assuming it's bacterial) and often requires drainage via needle aspiration or surgical incision with debridement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnabolicDoc View Post
    I just wanted to add a few things. Key signs of cellulitis, which is not often followed by abscess formation but cellulitis almost always precedes it, include local heat/warmth, tenderness to touch, local swelling, localized redness over affected area, and often at least a low grade fever. Abscesses have similar signs but will almost always be accompanied by high fevers, and palpable tender mass at the affected site, chills, sweats - basically you'll be very sick. There are exceptions and variations but these are general signs and symptoms of cellulitis and subq abscesses.

    Cellulutis can sometimes heal itself but this is highly suggested against as complications can ensue such as abscess formation, sepsis, and permanent loss of tissue via surgical debridement Often cellulitis can be difficult to distinguish from site irritation. When in doubt its probably best to see a doctor, especially if fever is present, symptoms are significant, and symptoms are getting worse or not improving. Abscesses will always need antibiotics (assuming it's bacterial) and often requires drainage via needle aspiration or surgical incision with debridement.
    In 84' I got SBE Sub Acute Bacterial Endocarditis. This is when I infected my mitral valve and the bacteria was eating my valve tissue. A miniscule piece of tissue can off and traveled in my blood stream down and into my foot. It went so far into the veins and capillaries that it stopped up the flow of blood in the foot, in that capillary. Cellulitis on my foot. In 10 hours from when I felt pain (no swelling yet) my foot got twice again the size of my shoe. PAIN...real Fckin pain. I started intravenous penicillin every 12 hrs for 6 hrs. Cellulite is painful. They infection was inside. No blood The foot was as hot as could be. If the compound is too strong it can crystalize in the tissue and cause the tissue to swell without infection but irritation and damage to the tissue. You can have a small case of cellulitise and get better without anti-biotics. Seldom the case. ...crazy mike

    PS: no valve replacement needed (close) and the cause was from shooting coke...cm

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    Wow, this was a really informative thread OP, really appreciate it. Going to re-read when I start my first cycle for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon_Tren_Yin View Post
    Wow, this was a really informative thread OP, really appreciate it. Going to re-read when I start my first cycle for sure.
    You're welcome...cheers to PIP free injections

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    Lol why is that kid using test e? It was a good instructional video but I almost couldn't pay attention I thought he was gunna start busting out in a song haha thanks though lunk.

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    Well good morning all. I think this is a goo thread to post this. All the discussion of absesess and cellulitis etc...
    You should know by now I'm bit hard core so let me tell you. The day before yesterday I decided to pin my thigh (quad) so I took a 25 G x 1" loaded 100mg Test Prop...Sanitized of course and sat on the bed put my leg forward, foot on the floor and relaxed my thigh. I stuck the mid point approx. 10 o'clock position and injected. I did not aspirate . When I stuck it, it burned a little, why?. Well I don't care, alcohol, vein, whatever. So I plunged and felt just a very slight twitch, par for the going. All's good and I pull out. Aaaah ! blood slow then quite a bit. I'm bleeding like a pig. Continue to wipe it off and slows and stops...oops oh well !
    So then I see the at point of injection and blood it starts to bulge. Yep here I go with a small but significant hematoma. I then could see a vein down there with this bubble in the middle. HEY, keep in mind this is small ( don't imagine). Now I know what I'm looking at and it's a little blood under the surface and this is going to get bigger and spread and be sore. NO WORRY !! I'll have a black n blue and discomfort.
    Conclusion, When I went in I cut thru a vein, passed thru as I tell you guys. Went deeper deposited the fluid (prop) and all is well. I have absorbed the prop I know. I have some soreness, NOT BAD, typical and a small dissipating hematoma.
    My example is I didn't inject into the vein or I know I would get sick, BOOM! yea I know too well from IV shit. Did it get into my system YES, dammit. I keep telling you all that if you hit a vein ou will not be able to stay in it. Our steroid go so slow for the most part IF, JUST IF you pushed any in the vein, I GUAANTEE by my experience you will know it long before you bottom out that plunger. I KNOW THIS. It takes about a half a second.
    How do I fell GREAT, a sore spot, poor mikey . On this third day my soreness is dissipating and it is just like muscle soreness like a hard ass workout that got me so sore. Now this is my experience, strength and hope that some of you will understand the dynamics of what you have under you flesh. I stand by this stupid comment I say all the time. This is elementary, this is NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. Blast off !............crazy mke

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    Is there anyway to Im with a 27g 1/2" lol I know dumb Jw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707
    Is there anyway to Im with a 27g 1/2" lol I know dumb Jw.
    hit a spot with no fat and z track

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKFitness View Post
    hit a spot with no fat and z track
    What's z track can I do 1ml of test this way I need to make sure it gets into muscle just once till I get my other 23g and 25g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707

    What's z track can I do 1ml of test this way I need to make sure it gets into muscle just once till I get my other 23g and 25g.
    it's pulling the skin to the side before injecting then it'll cover the hole you've made when you release and the skin returns to its original position.

    even if it doesn't all get directly deep into the muscle it will all still absorb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707 View Post
    Is there anyway to Im with a 27g 1/2" lol I know dumb Jw.


    Yes...biceps, triceps, chest

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    So if I draw 1ml test with 27g and z track my bicep just once til I get my other supplies I should be g2g yea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707 View Post
    So if I draw 1ml test with 27g and z track my bicep just once til I get my other supplies I should be g2g yea?
    Dont bother Z tracking. It will be fine with 1/2" in those areas. Just going to be slow with 27G so be patient

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    Ok cool first dose starts tonight then and drawing with 27g should be fine too right?
    Also how long befor I can tell if my test is legit ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707 View Post
    Ok cool first dose starts tonight then and drawing with 27g should be fine too right?
    Also how long befor I can tell if my test is legit ?
    I prefer to draw with one pin and stick with another although I used to do it with the same one. it dulls quickly

    Test E...4-6 weeks usually
    Test P....within 10 days

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    I prefer to draw with one pin and stick with another although I used to do it with the same one. it dulls quickly

    Test E...4-6 weeks usually
    Test P....within 10 days
    I save one pin and draw with it the whole time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKFitness View Post
    I save one pin and draw with it the whole time.
    You are kidding right?????????????

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    Well the needle doesn't come off so I have to but my 25s and 22s are coming soon so hopefully I only have to do this once.
    As for legit test e I won't feel a good pump or strength increase sooner?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazy mike View Post
    You will always know or find out if you have an abscess. An abscess is from an infection. the term abscess means that you have accumulated a pocket or a mass of pus. Pus is the abscess and pus is causes by infection. An abscess of any kind will be very painful at that site. It will eventually turn color. It will get harder and harder and more sensitive to the touch or movement very quickly due to being an infection. If an abbess always seek medical attention and at least a regiment of antibiotics. ....crazy mike


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    i drained my own abscess i guess my name should be crazy frank hahaha

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    No...it is not a stimulant and you really shouldnt ruelly "notice" anything...except the sides and your strength increasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    No...it is not a stimulant and you really shouldnt ruelly "notice" anything...except the sides and your strength increasing.
    K thanks lunk my strength should increase by 2-3 weeks tho right ?

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    There is no need for speed. That inj was slow and steady. Good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougiefresh7707 View Post
    K thanks lunk my strength should increase by 2-3 weeks tho right ?
    How many times have you heard diet and excersise. It all depends on how you eat and train!

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    Quote Originally Posted by massie View Post
    there is no need for speed. That inj was slow and steady. Good job
    huh???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    How many times have you heard diet and excersise. It all depends on how you eat and train!
    Cool thanks lunk you helped me out a lot with that one, (The pinning part ) not being sarcastic lol I know how it's hard to tell if someone is being sincere or sarcastic in a message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Up for the newbies
    Again.

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    This should be a sticky.

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