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    Should I start a new cycle?? Help needed story inside

    Sup guys,

    So here is a little history.

    First cycle was a pro hormone cycle (Probalonie for some of you) consisting of Epistane at 20/20/20/30/30/30. I felt great, lifts went up and so did weight.

    Followed by Nolva at 20/20/10/10. This is where I crashed hard on week 3 of PCT. I felt sides of Nolva, I was lethargic, depressed, weird moods... I followed it with 2 more weeks of Nolva at 20mg with DAA which helped and got me back up to normal!

    Come September 2012 I started a Max LMG cycle but due to sides that I did not like I stopped it after a week and switched to Epi again, which I stopped after 5 days since I felt extreme lethargy and I basically was not hungry at all. I felt like crap for 2 weeks until I decided to run Nolva at 20/20 coupled with DAA for 4 weeks, and then didn't touch any hormones again. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it but my testes have not come back to the size they were before ever touching hormones, I know that the size of testes are not indicative of Test levels... Also a thing to note is my appetite is smaller also, I basically eat small every day but I have not lost weight...

    Now I want to start a cycle in December 2012 and I'm more prepared this time around for PCT, I think running Clomid at (50/50/25/25) and Nolva at (20/20/20/20) coupled with DAA will be sufficient.

    My question is should I run another cycle? Also what can I take to combat the sides of Nolva and Clomid?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for the long history. It's better that you all know the whole story than snip-its.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenut
    Sup guys,

    So here is a little history.

    First cycle was a pro hormone cycle (Probalonie for some of you) consisting of Epistane at 20/20/20/30/30/30. I felt great, lifts went up and so did weight.

    Followed by Nolva at 20/20/10/10. This is where I crashed hard on week 3 of PCT. I felt sides of Nolva, I was lethargic, depressed, weird moods... I followed it with 2 more weeks of Nolva at 20mg with DAA which helped and got me back up to normal!

    Come September 2012 I started a Max LMG cycle but due to sides that I did not like I stopped it after a week and switched to Epi again, which I stopped after 5 days since I felt extreme lethargy and I basically was not hungry at all. I felt like crap for 2 weeks until I decided to run Nolva at 20/20 coupled with DAA for 4 weeks, and then didn't touch any hormones again. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it but my testes have not come back to the size they were before ever touching hormones, I know that the size of testes are not indicative of Test levels... Also a thing to note is my appetite is smaller also, I basically eat small every day but I have not lost weight...

    Now I want to start a cycle in December 2012 and I'm more prepared this time around for PCT, I think running Clomid at (50/50/25/25) and Nolva at (20/20/20/20) coupled with DAA will be sufficient.

    My question is should I run another cycle? Also what can I take to combat the sides of Nolva and Clomid?

    Thanks in advance and sorry for the long history. It's better that you all know the whole story than snip-its.

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    5'7 175 lbs
    Do the blood work first and go from there!

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    Sorry forgot to mention I am in a position where blood work cannot be done. Also to add no access to HCG . Even what I have already was risky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levani View Post
    Do the blood work first and go from there!
    After everything you have been through, this is the definitive answer, imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenut View Post
    Sorry forgot to mention I am in a position where blood work cannot be done. Also to add no access to HCG. Even what I have already was risky.
    Then wait until you can.

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    What's the worst that can happen if I go on an injectable, precisely test E at 500mg/week? Followed by a good PCT. Wont I be better of than I am now? Nothing is wrong with me now, I feel fine, but you never know inside...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenut View Post
    What's the worst that can happen if I go on an injectable, precisely test E at 500mg/week? Followed by a good PCT. Wont I be better of than I am now? Nothing is wrong with me now, I feel fine, but you never know inside...
    Youre could potentially be in for a world of hate bro. If you do a cycle at 19 you will be putting your young developing endocrine system in jeopardy and the outcome will not be pretty. You could suffer from everything from Erectile Dysfunction, to stunting your growth, and i dont mean just your height.

    I seriously recommend you do a lot of reading and research on the use of AAS at a young and developing age before you decide to commit to potentially injuring and damaging your system permanently.

    If you decide to ignore this advice i promise you. you will be back in begging for help during or at the end of your cycle. You will not know how to control the serious effects that could take over your body and cause you more suffering that you could possibly dream of in your wildest frat party hallucinations.

    Best of luck with you son. I hope you make the right decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Youre could potentially be in for a world of hate bro. If you do a cycle at 19 you will be putting your young developing endocrine system in jeopardy and the outcome will not be pretty. You could suffer from everything from Erectile Dysfunction, to stunting your growth, and i dont mean just your height.

    I seriously recommend you do a lot of reading and research on the use of AAS at a young and developing age before you decide to commit to potentially injuring and damaging your system permanently.

    If you decide to ignore this advice i promise you. you will be back in begging for help during or at the end of your cycle. You will not know how to control the serious effects that could take over your body and cause you more suffering that you could possibly dream of in your wildest frat party hallucinations.

    Best of luck with you son. I hope you make the right decision.
    I'm 26... You probably misread that... it's Ok fellow Canadian Still looking for your input...

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    Gawd, im sorry brother.

    There have been so many young guys here lately and i was just dealing with one of them. I must have confused the two threads. Once again my apologies. And thank you for understanding. I need rest..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Gawd, im sorry brother.

    There have been so many young guys here lately and i was just dealing with one of them. I must have confused the two threads. Once again my apologies. And thank you for understanding. I need rest..

    No problem man, it happens. Thanks for the input anw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenut View Post
    No problem man, it happens. Thanks for the input anw.
    Thank you.

    I would honestly wait until you can get blood work done before you embark on another cycle. You really don't know whats going on and haven't had the opportunity to have a good look at your bloods. Until you can, the best course of action is to wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Thank you.

    I would honestly wait until you can get blood work done before you embark on another cycle. You really don't know whats going on and haven't had the opportunity to have a good look at your bloods. Until you can, the best course of action is to wait.
    Yeah, sounds like the most responsible solution to all this. Thanks for helping me think straight, sometimes we all get lost with differing opinions and so on...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thenut View Post
    Yeah, sounds like the most responsible solution to all this. Thanks for helping me think straight, sometimes we all get lost with differing opinions and so on...
    Yup, been there done that.

    Good luck brother..

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