From my understanding, anything above genetic limit requires juice to maintain. Anything below genetic limit can be maintained with or without juice assuming diet, sleep, nutrition are in check.
I have spent 3 yrs lifting like its my job. I feel im 70% at my genetic limit. I went from 13-18 inch arms natty. I feel I can get them to max 19-20 natty depending on BF levels.
My friend started cycling the second he started lifting. Although his diet, training, sleep are all in check as well.
Both of our goals is to be at our genetic limits and try and maintain that.
The rate he is going, he will hit his genetic limit, in a total of 1.5 yrs total lifting time, all with assistance. With 3 cycles completed.
I will hit my genetic limit in 4 yrs total lifting time, with 3 of those years natty and 1 cycle in the 4th year.
Besides the fact hes done more cycles in the end. Please explain to me why I am better off? Since both our goals is simply maintaining genetic limit and not competing. I feel like all my hard does not matter in this circumstance.
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