Advice on Tren-test cycle

[diesel101]

trying to come up with a good tren cycle.
This will be my first tren cycle
Stats.
age 42
6'1
220 lbs
bf 12-13 %
4th cycle

1-10 test p 400 mg per week eod injections
1-8 tren a 300 mg per week eod injections
caber 1 mg per week
adex .25 mg ed
HCG 500 iu per week 250x2 aweek

start pct 3 days after last injection
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 100/50/50/50

Dosages are less than most people run on the tren but wanted to see how my body was going to react
I would apprieciate any suggestions on this cycle from you pro's out there.
Let me know if I am missing anything or need to go back to the research mode
Thanks

[Lunk1]

Actually 300mg EW is perfect!

Have you considered a lower dose Test protocal..not a must but perhaps consider it.

No reason to run test longer than tren...stop em both at 8 weeks!

[Capebuffalo]

Since you are running short esters on both. I would run the test at 250 mg per week and the tren at 500 mg per week. Any sides and you can reduce or bail quick with the tren a. 8 weeks is plenty.

[Capebuffalo]

IMO If you keep estrogen in check with adex no need to run caber. Have it on hand in case you need it.

[stpete]

What were your previous cycles?

[Randy_Mar]

I'm on day #1 of my Tren/Test cycle. I'm doing 400mg Tren-E per/wk + 200mg Test-E per/wk.
Some say run Test higher than the Tren, and some say run it lower. I like to run just enough to keep my levels in check.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but would higher Test increase water weight gain?
Diesel101: I'm sure your goals may play a factor in what you want to dose.

[Lunk1]

Running test higher or lower than a 19nor is a matter of preference and both ways have advantages and disadvantages. It also depends on your personal reaction to the compounds. It's important to find what is right for you as an individual...

[diesel101]

previous cycles consisted of
1 dbol and test at 400mg per week
2 sust 500 mg per week
3 var and test p at 400 mg per week
not going to lie,I thought I knew what I was doing after taking advice from friends at the gym on dosages but after being on this site I relize I had no f***ing clue.

[Lunk1]

Seriously...those dosages are not bad at all for a first time tren user...it doesnt take much.

As Cape said..you could drop the Caber and keep it on hand but some like to run it for other effects

[diesel101]

Since you are running short esters on both. I would run the test at 250 mg per week and the tren at 500 mg per week. Any sides and you can reduce or bail quick with the tren a. 8 weeks is plenty.

From what I read I understand it takes about 2 days after quiting the tren for the sides to disappear if they get too bad?

[diesel101]

I am going to lower the test to 250 and drop the caber but I still have it on hand just in case.
I will drop it to 8 weeks total.
I'm going to start this next week and I will let you guys know the results.
Once again thanks for all the advice and help.

[Lunk1]

I am going to lower the test to 250 and drop the caber but I still have it on hand just in case.
I will drop it to 8 weeks total.
I'm going to start this next week and I will let you guys know the results.
Once again thanks for all the advice and help.

Run your AI at EOD instead of ED to start...with lower test especially you may not need much...you can always adjust up!

[OnTheSauce]

id keep the caber. Its awesome. Multiple orgasms is pretty nice.

[Lunk1]

id keep the caber. Its awesome. Multiple orgasms is pretty nice.

You can do that with a prostate massage...no drugs needed

[songdog]

previous cycles consisted of
1 dbol and test at 400mg per week
2 sust 500 mg per week
3 var and test p at 400 mg per week
not going to lie,I thought I knew what I was doing after taking advice from friends at the gym on dosages but after being on this site I relize I had no f***ing clue.

A lot of guys have really messed themselfs up listening to friends.

[Allaaro]

Keep the caber. More benefits being on it and I like to not wait for sides to come before needing to use it.

Cycle looks fine, can lower or keep testosterone dosage the same. I wouldn't really go above 300 tren for first time use...no need. Hell, most people don't need over 300 tren per week period if diet/training is good. I personally don't think tren is that cheap also....so more money in wallet and less sides/great gains.