feedback on my first cycle?

[truereligion]

Hey everyone,

I've been a long term lurke. After much debate, I have decided to run my first cycle. I am aware of the risk involved, as well as its rewards (especially being 21 years of age). I want to do a test e + dbol cycle. here is below my program. Any feedback would be appreciated!

my cycle:

Weeks 1-6
-Test E 500 mg/ml (twice a week 250 each, tuesday and friday)
-Dbol 30 mg (everyday)
-Aromasin 12.5mg (everyday)
-Cycle Assist (4 tabs am,4 tabs pm everyday)
-Tudca 250mg (everyday)
-HCG 250iu (starting weeks 3, pin every 4 days)
-Extras: omega 3, multis, etc the stuff that is normally used
-(will have Novaldex on hand in case Gyno kicks in)

Weeks 7-12
-Test E 500mg/ml (twice a week 250 each, tuesday and friday)
-Aromasin 12.5 mg (everyday)
-Cycle Assist (4 tabs am, 4 tabs pm everyday)
-Tudca 250mg (everyday)
-HCG 250iu (pin every 4 days)
-Extras: omega 3, multis, etc the stuff that is normally used
-(will have Novaldex on hand in case Gyno kicks in)

PCT: Weeks 15-16 (2 week delay from last pin)
-Aromasin 25 mg (everyday)
-Nolvadex 40 mg (everyday)
-Clomid 100 mg (everyday)
-Tudca 250 mg (everyday)
-Tribulus
-Extras: omega 3, multis, etc the stuff that is normally used

Weeks 17-18
-Aromasin 12.5 mg (everyday) I heard that it is a good idea to taper during last 2 weeks for both SERM and AI, can anyone shed some light on this?
-Novaldex 20 mg (everyday)
-Clomid 50 mg (everyday)
-Tudca 250 mg (everyday)
-Tribulus
-Extras: omega 3, multis, etc the stuff that is normally used

Will be doing pre and post bloodwork thru Private MD labs in the US

Background:
Stats- 21 y/o, 180lb 15% bf, been lifting consistently for 4 years. Healthy diet, eat 4-5 times a day
-HCG for PCT? I have read numerous sources that this is not a good idea as it is counter productive (regardless of which SERM was used during the program).
-How is my HCG dosage at 250iu every 4 days?
-Do you suggest I run this much liver support, or is this excessive? Tudca isn't cheap lol.
-Any feedback on those "Testosterone Cycle Stacks"? Many of them advertise that they are better than traditional PCT protocols and thus you are able to run less SERM and no AI (less sides from SERMS I suppose?)

I'd love to hear what others including the vets on this board have to say
Thanks for your input
Tr

[panntastic]

Sorry bro but at your age and with your "healthy diet " and consistent lifting for 4 years you should be in better shaper than 180 @ 16%bf I suggest you get over the diet section learn to eat properly and train properly and implement that for the next few years

[BlueWaffle21]

^^^Ditto that plus there are some issues with your cycle so put in the hard work like the rest of us and reach your potential naturally first.

[Gaspaco]

Hey mate!

You are young but so do I to cycle and I know from my experience that you will do it and no one will STOP you.

Check MickeyKnox, tread about most commom cycles for beginners, stay away from orals and keep it simple.

Test only the best first run you can do.

[panntastic]

Hey mate!

You are young but so do I to cycle and I know from my experience that you will do it and no one will STOP you.

Check MickeyKnox, tread about most commom cycles for beginners, stay away from orals and keep it simple.

Test only the best first run you can do.

Great advice see you will be joining the trt forum in the not to distant future!

Op please don't listen to this immature ill advised person they don't know you or your hpta or endocrine system so please don't take their advice it's wrong!

[MickeyKnox]

Welcome to the Board truereligion,

As the others have stated, a couple more years before you embark on an AAS journey would serve your developing system a great deal. Generally under the age of 25 youre endocrine system and growth platelets are still developing, and you really don't want to interfere with this natural process. If you do, you could create more problems further down the road than its worth.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

Take a look at this link and please read it. I think you will agree that it is both informative and educational.

Cheers and good luck.

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs