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    Test-E Cycle. Expert advice required. Gyno & PCT.

    Hey guys, I would like to share with you my recent experiences with testosterone enanthate and to receive some advice. First of all, I am a 21 years old male, I am currently serving in the Brazilian Army as a 2nd Lieutenant (just graduated from officer`s course), and have decided, after doing some research, to go to the dark side, since I will be assigned a platoon in the next March, and being big and strong would help me greatly in my profession and life. I have been weight-training for 7 years, 3 serious; and following a calorie&protein dense diet (3.000 Kcal). During those last years I have really pushed myself during winters to eat 4000+ kcal and trained 4x week with intensity and consistency, but along with some results, i ended up with a little pot-belly. The opportunity to be enhanced now was really compelling, and waiting would not be the best for my current situation. I started on a Testosterone Enanthate only cycle in Nov 26 2012. So here follows my stats:

    STATS
    Age: 21
    Height: 180cm/5f 9in
    Weight: 75 Kg/165 lbs
    Bodyfat: 10%
    Chest: 99cm/ 38.98 in
    Waist: 81cm/ 31.89 in
    Biceps:34 cm/ 13.39 in
    Thigh:53 cm/ 20.87 in
    Calves:38 cm/ 14.96 in

    TRAINING
    Mon:Chest/Triceps/ Calves
    Tue:Back/ Abs
    Wed:Rest - HIIT
    Thu:Legs/ Calves
    Fri:Biceps/ Traps/ Shoulders
    Sat:Rest - HIIT
    Sun:Rest - HIIT

    DIET: 5 solid meals and 1 post-workout shake (Whey Blend+Malto w/Dextrose) on workout days. 3L tracked water everyday.
    3318 Kcal
    131 Fat
    259 Carbs
    278 Protein

    CYCLE - 10 weeks (first cycle)
    600 mg Test Enanthate/week - 300mg injection on Monday & Thursday
    20 mg Tamoxifen everyday: gyno prevention (I am prone, since I have a little pubertal gyno)
    Objective: mostly lean gains, clean bulk.
    At the end, I will post before/after pics & stats.

    PTC: SERMS (Clomid & Tamoxifen)
    ***DOUBT: I was recommended Proviron by my supplier, what do you think? I need help here, because I really want to avoid Gyno and mantain my gains.

    EXPERIENCE SO FAR:I am in my 2nd week. Rise in libido was noticed, as well as in energy. First shots were not painfull, done with proper technique. However, in the 1st week I experience great pain after, and was limping. Now it`s ok. I inject on the thighs, alternating left and right, 22G needle to apply, 18G to extract. Always check if didn`t hit blood vessel. Always leave a little bubble of air in the needle to avoid left-over test. No acne experienced. No sensitive nipples.

    PLEASE, if you are going to criticize me, be constructive! Proactive!
    I need further help on using AI`s istead of SERMS on gyno prevention during cycle. I still don`t understand which is better. Is it important to reduce aromatization during cycle, or can I just use a SERM? If possible, please show me the studies, everything. I haven`t found many things about it and didn`t quite understand what I read.
    Also need help with Proviron! My source tells me to use it along with Tamoxifen for PCT. What are your experiences with it?
    Another doubt: what do you think about reducing the Test-E dosage after week 5 to 500 mg/week and make it a 11 week cycle?

    Best regards.

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    So you Have been training since you were 13? At 20 you have lots of natural test in your system and no reason to run aas yet. Do some research over the next 3 or 4 years and dial your diet it you are worth it!

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    It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

    Take a look at this link and please read it. I think you will agree that it is both informative and educational.

    Cheers and good luck.

    The Young and Steroids

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

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    Bro I agree with the above.Wat you need to do is learn how to eat.Hit the diet section and post your diet with macros and goals.You are to light for your size.This tells me your not eating right.

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    Why do people buy drugs, use the drugs....THEN ask for help on how to use them?? Is it just me, or are these steps not in the right order??
    huh......weird

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    Answering some of the questions:
    - yes, I've been training since the age 14.
    - I don't know if you've only read my stats, but I am already on week 2 of test-e
    - I forgot to mention that, because of the army, I haven't been weight-training for the past 6 months, although I have been doing strengh work, sometimes weighted, others bodyweight, and endurance training.
    - I have read all the posts on steroids&young, here and in others forums, I am aware of everything you are saying, but if I truly decided to do the exact right thing, I would wait untill I was 30+ to start. I would have very few benefits in my life then, but now it would have a great impact on my profession in the military and in life Now. I have done medical exams, and figured that I am done growing, after all, anybody with my age normally is. Because of all this I have decided to start on it.
    - please answer the questions I have proposed by the end of the post.

    Thanks for answering

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallmannm View Post
    Answering some of the questions:
    - yes, I've been training since the age 14.
    - I don't know if you've only read my stats, but I am already on week 2 of test-e
    - I forgot to mention that, because of the army, I haven't been weight-training for the past 6 months, although I have been doing strengh work, sometimes weighted, others bodyweight, and endurance training.
    - I have read all the posts on steroids&young, here and in others forums, I am aware of everything you are saying, but if I truly decided to do the exact right thing, I would wait untill I was 30+ to start. I would have very few benefits in my life then, but now it would have a great impact on my profession in the military and in life Now. I have done medical exams, and figured that I am done growing, after all, anybody with my age normally is. Because of all this I have decided to start on it.
    - please answer the questions I have proposed by the end of the post.

    Thanks for answering
    All honesty you really should of had all your questions answered before you even start pinning.

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    Bro, what are you suggesting? That I simply stop mid-cycle? I thought I had a very reasonable background on training, nutrition and AAS research to start a cycle. Here in Brazil, the knowledge I have aquired about steroids is not common at all, even with regular users. Here people use deca and sustanon on first cycles, they start in their teens, do a poor pct if any. Not to mention poor injection procedures. At least I have done everything right regarding a first cycle.

    Can you guys be more constructive, meaning try to make a suggestion, or answer my questions, otherwise I feel that I have shared all this for nothing.

    Thanks for the replies.

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    From my research i would tell u to use HCG on cycle and if ur nipples get sensitive or u feel gyno starting to develop i would get some Letro

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    MickeyKnox, any thoughts on Proviron? Can you answer some of those questions posed earlier: about necessity of AIs during cycle, etc?
    Last edited by mallmannm; 12-06-2012 at 12:03 PM.

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