New cycle, cutting, decent stack (slin, primo, tren, omnadren, prop...)

[croquant]

Hey guys,

I posting the cycle I m running right now just to share it with you guys and get your point about it...

I dont recommand anyone to use all these products, and gear should be taken wisely!

NB: just to make easier for you, here are my stats: I m 6'2 220lbs, about 14%bf and 26yo... I already did a few cycles before, this is my first cutting one...

I start with a lean builk cycle before starting the real cutting phase... I m currently in week 5 (cut a little and gained 4lbs feeling full), training 4 days/week cardio in the morning.

I take slin 6ui humalog PWO on training days...

Link is in the file

I m on a maintaining diet 3500 cal. was at 5200 during builk...

Any thoughts on this?

[MickeyKnox]

Bulking and cutting in the same cycle? I would split this up into to separate cycles and use my "time off" to cut, AFTER post cycle therapy was completed and my hormones were stable.

Your PCT is weak.

No AI.

Why are you titrating your Test?

hCG protocol is completely wrong and waaay too high.

[alexISthrowed]

Using slin well cutting is a pretty advanced technique. Your stats don't indicate that you are that advanced where you would need slin on a cutting diet. I only know of very big national level bodybuilders that do this personally. I would drop the slin as I would think it would be counter productive at your size.

[alexISthrowed]

Bulking and cutting in the same cycle? I would split this up into to separate cycles and use my "time off" to cut, AFTER post cycle therapy was completed and my hormones were stable.

Your PCT is weak.

No AI.

Why are you titrating your Test?

hCG protocol is completely wrong and waaay too high.

This too. I know guys that drop test pre contest but I also know guys who run it right up to there show. My dad was on 800mg prop right up to his show where he took the overall at the biggest national qualifier in mi, dry as fvck. He feels it keeps him fuller. If your not competing why even bother with experimenting with this?

[croquant]

I drop slin for the cutting phase at week 11...

About test, it's because I m not sure about competing, I wanna see where I m at before deciding, If I dont feel like getting on stage I ll keep test on 300mg all along...

[alexISthrowed]

I drop slin for the cutting phase at week 11...

About test, it's because I m not sure about competing, I wanna see where I m at before deciding, If I dont feel like getting on stage I ll keep test on 300mg all along...

Ok I was confused. I don't cycle but if I did I wouldn't try to bulk and cut in the same cycle. Just my opinion. I'm not a fan of constantly switching compounds and doses, I have had bad sides in the past constantly switching things out for different goals. I try to limit hormone fluctuation as much as possible. Why not just concentrate on building and if you decide to compete you can put together a separate cutting cycle?

[croquant]

It s not a "big" builking cycle so I m just trying to get a few pounds of lean mass then cutting... I know competitors that cycle like that with good results so I give it a shot

[alexISthrowed]

It s not a "big" builking cycle so I m just trying to get a few pounds of lean mass then cutting... I know competitors that cycle like that with good results so I give it a shot

I'm not saying it can't be done and maybe it will work for you. I am not a fan of the term bulking either, I try to keep bf in check at all times. 18 weeks is also a very long cycle if you plan on coming off and trying to recover. IMO its more trouble than it's worth.

[croquant]

The pct is whaqt scares me the most... I have ostarine and gh too, i plan on using it on pct to help maintaining the gains...

Some say that hcg 5000 is the must to recover as it kicks pretty hard...

[alexISthrowed]

On a cycle like this I'd use hcg at 250iu 3x a week to keep things kicking but it's useless for pct as it will shut you down.

[alexISthrowed]

I'd also run an aggressive pct. maybe something like this.

Toremifene 100/100/100/100
Tamoxifen 40/40/20/20

Run hcg throughout cycle at 250ius 3x ew

[croquant]

Ok i ll check that out! thx for the answers mate

[croquant]

If i take hcg 250ui x 3 /week, can i take 3x1500ui in pct just to make sure?