Questions for anyone who has ran an eight week prop cycle

[thex95]

Stats -
Age 24
height 5'11 ft
weight 182 lbs
bf% 12
years training 5


Cycle history-

400 mg test cypionate Ew for 10 weeks.
.25mg arimidex eod until PCT
PCT starting 18 days after last injection consisting of
nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 70/35/35/35

proposed 2nd cycle

test Prop; 100mg eod week 1-8
Anavar weeks 1-4 or 5 50mg ED
HCG 250 iu twice a week form first injection until last injection (if I can find it, if not I just wont use HCG)
liquidex .5 eod from beggining until last injection.
PCT 3 days from last injection
Nolva 40/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/25/25

my question is has anyone noticed how long it was since they performed their cycle until they lost the majority of their gains? Or have you maintained your gains to this day? The test cyp cycle I ran was 2 years ago and I would say I am slightly larger than before I ran the cycle but nothing compared to what I was when I was on. Also did you use HCG on cycle and did you find this helped you keep gains? Thanks all!

[thex95]

I know people have run 8 week prop cycles here! lol sorry I know its kind of a weird question

[MickeyKnox]

The answer to your question is diet. Keeping your gains is about diet and exercise - nothing else.

Cycle looks good but i would up the Var dose to 60-80 minimum.

[Infidel101]

I'm starting almost the same exact second cycle in about 2 weeks. Prop at 150 EOD and Var at 80 mg ED. I'll let you now how it goes.

[BBeagle]

prop seems low to me. try 150-200mg eod
if you don't want to loose too much of your gains.... yes, pay attention to your diet... and cycle AAS twice a year
cheers

[MickeyKnox]

prop seems low to me. try 150-200mg eod
if you don't want to loose too much of your gains.... yes, pay attention to your diet... and cycle AAS twice a year
cheers

350mg + Var is fine for a second cycle. Sometimes less is more bro.

[thex95]

The answer to your question is diet. Keeping your gains is about diet and exercise - nothing else.

Cycle looks good but i would up the Var dose to 60-80 minimum.

are you saying hcg does not matter with regards to maintaining gains?

would you say that even if you keep your diet and exercise perfect you would still eventually lose ally our gains or no?

[MickeyKnox]

1. I did not say that at all.

2. If you kept your diet and exercise perfect you would not lose all your gains.

[thex95]

1. I did not say that at all.

2. If you kept your diet and exercise perfect you would not lose all your gains.

cool thanks. Also I was not implying that you said that just confirming.

[MickeyKnox]

No sweat bro. You have a PM.

[BBeagle]

350mg + Var is fine for a second cycle. Sometimes less is more bro.

let me respectfully disagree with you on this particular case...what's the difference in terms of side effects from 100mg eod to 150-200mg eod of TP? and in terms of anabolic effect? and by the way, what's our main goal when using AAS? to grow... isn't it?

[MickeyKnox]

let me respectfully disagree with you on this particular case...what's the difference in terms of side effects from 100mg eod to 150-200mg eod of TP? and in terms of anabolic effect? and by the way, what's our main goal when using AAS? to grow... isn't it?

You missed the boat.

Im saying that 350mg of testosterone per wk is fine for the average user and will produce results. Are you suggesting that this particular person will not build muscle and produce results @ 350mg/wk and 60mg Var? (all things being equal) Do you feel he needs 500mg/wk to gain muscle?

How much measurable difference is there in 150mg? How much more muscle with the average person build with this increase on a second cycle? 1lb? 3lbs? 5lbs? 20lbs 40lbs?

And for the record, I don't know what your main goals is, but mine is to promote the safe use of AAS while using as little as possible and still producing desired results.

[stpete]

2nd cycle?

Save the Var for another time and run that Prop @ 150mgs EOD for 8 weeks. Then on your next cycle you can run some dbol or var. But run some respectable amounts, like 60-80mgs var like Mickey mentioned.

[thex95]

2nd cycle?

Save the Var for another time and run that Prop @ 150mgs EOD for 8 weeks. Then on your next cycle you can run some dbol or var. But run some respectable amounts, like 60-80mgs var like Mickey mentioned.

right on man, ya I was thinking of upping the prop to 150 eod. I realized that at 100 I would be doing a smaller cycle than my first one

[Bevsta123]

iv never really understood the term "eod" what days are you pinning?

[thex95]

iv never really understood the term "eod" what days are you pinning?

so from my very first injection i will just inject every other day until I have injected 28 times

[Bevsta123]

so from my very first injection i will just inject every other day until I have injected 28 times

so you would u like divide the 28 injections over 8 weeks (3.5 days)?

[thex95]

so you would u like divide the 28 injections over 8 weeks (3.5 days)?

heres the math to work it out mang.

cycle length = 8 weeks.

7 days * 8 weeks = 56 days total

eod injections means 56/2= 23 injections.

So from first injection every other day I would inject again.

For example start monday, next injection wednesday, then friday, then sunday, then tuesday ......... ect

[Bevsta123]

heres the math to work it out mang.

cycle length = 8 weeks.

7 days * 8 weeks = 56 days total

eod injections means 56/2= 23 injections.

So from first injection every other day I would inject again.

For example start monday, next injection wednesday, then friday, then sunday, then tuesday ......... ect

cheers, im still a little confused though but thanks for trying to explain it haha