Test P + NPP Advice

**Ricer** · 12-11-2012, 09:17 AM

It's that time of the year again!

Starting my cycle Jan 7th.

Here's what I have planned out.
(This will be my 5th cycle)

6'2
Down to 215lbs (Used to be around 225, wrist surgery kept me out of the gym)
bf : 13-14%

Prop 125mg- EOD Weeks 1-10
NPP- 100mg- EOD Weeks 1-9
Caber- Start out with .5 E3D

PCT-
Standard Nova/Clomid.

Looking for a clean bulk. Any advice on the NPP? This will be my 1st time trying Nandrolone . Any input from previous users would be great!

Thanks,

**ScotchGuard02** · 12-11-2012, 09:46 AM

Have fun, looks like you got it down.

**Granovich** · 12-11-2012, 10:10 AM

HCG ? Ai ?

**Ricer** · 12-11-2012, 10:17 AM

I didn't post HCG as I am unable to get it at this time.

I will have Aromasin on hand in case of estrogen sides.

**Lunk1** · 12-11-2012, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ricer

I didn't post HCG as I am unable to get it at this time.

I will have Aromasin on hand in case of estrogen sides.

I would run the Aro and keep the caber on hand. If you effectively control your E2 with an AI then there is no need for prolactin control

**Ricer** · 12-11-2012, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I would run the Aro and keep the caber on hand. If you effectively control your E2 with an AI then there is no need for prolactin control

I feel I'm more prone to prolactin sides. Gyno would creep on strong when I ran my previous tren a cycles.

**MickeyKnox** · 12-11-2012, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ricer

I feel I'm more prone to prolactin sides. Gyno would creep on strong when I ran my previous tren a cycles.

Did you include an AI at that time and with those cycles?

**MuscleInk** · 12-11-2012, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Did you include an AI at that time and with those cycles?

He mentioned keeping an "AI on hand". I'd rather OP keep the AI in his body than on hand.

.....here we go again with the, "I'll use it if I get gyno" none sense.

**Lunk1** · 12-11-2012, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Ricer

I feel I'm more prone to prolactin sides. Gyno would creep on strong when I ran my previous tren a cycles.

Like Mick asked...did yuu use an AI during that cycle? Do you know it was prolactin related gyno??

**bigpapabuff** · 12-11-2012, 04:53 PM

Yea run the ai.Low dose is fine. It will manage e2 and prevent a lot of sides. Even sides that are often called prolactin induced sides. It really is about estrogen. Use the ai - keep caber (or prami) on hand if needed.

**Granovich** · 12-11-2012, 11:18 PM

why not use the caber anyway
i dont understand the idea behind " keep it on hand "
would it actually hinder gains ?
i know it helps with Libido and prevent "deca dick"

**Ricer** · 12-12-2012, 07:34 AM

I have an AI "on hand" along with caber. As Granovich said, I plan on running the caber in small dosages through out the cycle.

**jimmyinkedup** · 12-12-2012, 08:21 AM

Run the ai in small doses from the start . Keep caber on hand - use if you have too.

**MickeyKnox** · 12-12-2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup

Run the ai in small doses from the start . Keep caber on hand - use if you have too.

Agree with Jimmy.

**Lunk1** · 12-12-2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ricer

I have an AI "on hand" along with caber. As Granovich said, I plan on running the caber in small dosages through out the cycle.

Granivich was NOT saying do not use the AI and run the Caber.
He was saying run them both. Your gyno issues sre MOST likely E@ related and can be kept at bay with the USE of an AI, not keeping it on hand!