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    Test e var cycle

    Hey guys this is my second cycle, first was just 12 weeks of 600 mg test e with arimidex and nolva.
    I am going to add in var to this cycle. I have ran into alot of controversy about whether to use only nolva or chlomid and nolva for pct.
    Weeks 1-12 600 mg test e. 300 2x a week.
    Weeks 3-7 50 mg ED anavar .
    14-17 nolva for pct, thinking 40-20-20
    Arimidex 0.5 eod
    Milk thistle throughout as well as multivitamins and fish oil with omega 3.
    Any critisim or helpful hints please feel free.
    Thank you very much

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    Welcome Craig!

    What are your stats?

    There is a very similar cycle complete with AI, hCG , and PCT in this thread. Check it out..

    Most Common Beginners Cycles

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

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    Thanks alot I'll look into that! My stats are 5"11 189 pounds, 12% bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig1414 View Post
    Thanks alot I'll look into that! My stats are 5"11 189 pounds, 12% bf
    Great! After you take a look at that thread, come on back here if you have any other questions.

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    That thread was really helpful. I am still very back and forth about the HCG . I have friends whom I work out with and they have done more cycles than me, and have never used or needed HCG. I think I will change my PCT to-
    Weeks 15-19 chlomid 75 50 50 50
    Nolva 40 40 20 20
    I will up my arimidex to more than 0.5 eod, since they recommend 12.5 eod in your thread. Also to adjust accordingly.

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    ^ How old are you, craig?

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    Quote Originally Posted by craig1414 View Post
    That thread was really helpful. I am still very back and forth about the HCG . I have friends whom I work out with and they have done more cycles than me, and have never used or needed HCG. I think I will change my PCT to-
    Weeks 15-19 chlomid 75 50 50 50
    Nolva 40 40 20 20
    I will up my arimidex to more than 0.5 eod, since they recommend 12.5 eod in your thread. Also to adjust accordingly.
    Re read that link and cycle bro. You misunderstood those values and which AI they belong to.

    Arimidex is .25EOD to start.

    Aromasin is 12.5mg EOD

    And i highly recommend you include hCG on cycle.

    Why HCG is So Important

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UIlhVWfX_ft

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ How old are you, craig?
    I should have waited for that. Sorry bro.

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    Sorry guys got aromasin and arimidex mixed up. I am 24.

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    4 wks for PCT is fine, but if you want to run it out 5 wks that's fine too.

    Also, you may want to increase your Var to 60mg minimum, and increase the duration to 6wks minimum at the end for better results.

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    Okay, ya I will be doing some more research this entire week I really want to fine tune my cycle. I have already purchased the test, var, arimidex , and nolva. I will purchase more var (they are in 10mg pills so easy to go from 50 to 60 mg daily)and some chlomid.

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    Sounds good.

    And dont forget hCG .

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    I have an on topic question about that cycle (100mg test prop EOD, 60mg var). If he was using a long ester- Test E/ Cyp. what mg of Test. would you recommend to go with the 60mg of var? Also, why start the Var week 2, whats the thought w/ the 2nd week?
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Welcome Craig!

    What are your stats?

    There is a very similar cycle complete with AI, hCG , and PCT in this thread. Check it out..

    Most Common Beginners Cycles

    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs
    Last edited by harley121; 12-11-2012 at 08:21 PM.

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    500mg Test is about average.

    I began the Var in wk 2 to illustrate a beginners 6 wk cycle of Var, but that should have been wk 3.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Hey Mickey, thanks for the note. Was wondering if using a long ester, why not start the Var day 1 so you get some Var kicking in till the 4th week w/ the Test E? I am asking, I guess I got lucky and pointed something out that I didn't understand! Love when that happens, I look smart
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    500mg Test is about average.

    I began the Var in wk 2 to illustrate a beginners 6 wk cycle of Var, but that should have been wk 3.

    Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Because of the long ester I think it's best, but not etched in stone, to begin Var while there is exogenous testosterone built up in your system. If you were running a short ester like Prop, i would start Var wk 1.

    Keep in mind the recommendations in this thread are what i believe to be the safest course of action based upon activelife's, performance profiles, previous experience. (IOW's, If you were to begin Var in wk 1 would you be fine? Im sure you would.)

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    Got it man!
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Because of the long ester I think it's best, but not etched in stone, to begin Var while there is exogenous testosterone built up in your system. If you were running a short ester like Prop, i would start Var wk 1.

    Keep in mind the recommendations in this thread are what i believe to be the safest course of action based upon activelife's, performance profiles, previous experience. (IOW's, If you were to begin Var in wk 1 would you be fine? Im sure you would.)

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    Id run 500mgs of test and bump the anavar to 60mgs for 6-8wks. Test for 12wks.

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