I'm gyno prone when it comes to tren. Stane didn't do much for me was wondering what i should use fur a large cycle of prop tren n deca
I'm gyno prone when it comes to tren. Stane didn't do much for me was wondering what i should use fur a large cycle of prop tren n deca
You say your gyno prone "when it comes to Tren". Are you saying you are prl prone? Since the majority of gyno is related to elevated E2 levels and Tren doesn't aromatize then I highly doubt it is the cause of your gyno unless it's prolactin related...of course in the majority of cases as long as E2 is controled then so is prolactin.
What is your cycle history to include your AI protocol???
You need a prolactin antagonist for Deca and Tren....Cabergoline 1 mg 1x per week!
Agree with the above but I'll add that you can get by with caber at .25 x 2 per week which should crush your prolactin. You can always adjust up. Op, why both tren and deca? Not that you can't but it just seems like over-kill.
I like to run deca with everything because i have really bad joint pain.
I use prami and love the way it keeps me my rage under control while on high doses tren
+1 to everything said above.
^ u still didn't give cycle history, or future cycle plans...
Try MSM powder for joint pain. Works wonders....
I've tried all the msm and all the over the counter stuff for joints and don't notice any .
As for history I've done a lot of test n deca cycles kicking them off with anadrol our dbol. Assists used arimidex as my ai and never had trouble until i started getting bunk ai from gp. That's when my gyno started.
Finally got rid of it and did some small tren/test cycles and noticed irritation of the nips.
Then i tried a large cycle of 1000mg prop/week 700mg tren/ 500 deca/week and kicked it off with 100mg/day anadrol.
It was incredible what that cycle did for me but my dad convinced me to use stane as my ai and it didn't work so hot. I gut lumps bad and was lactating.
With a cycle like that what dose should i start my adex at?
.25 per 250mg of test would be a place to start. (for adex imo) i like stane, interesting it didn't work well for you as it is stronger. (maybe it wasn't good) perhaps you should try letro. also ever think of using mast on cycle? n ur not using nolva with the deca/tren on cycle right?
Nah i don't use nolva til after. I like stane for everything but tren.
I thought arimidex was stronger than stane?
Letro is a big no go! Haha completely shuts me down.
I can't get a wiggle out of it to save my life! Ha
I've been thinking of adding masteron but I'm already a human pin cushion.lol
I guess I'll just order some arimidex from arr and try that .25/250
And I'll throw some prami in there too. The prami just putsmeinto
Such an amazing mood which is huge because i get such a
Short temper from tren.
well you shouldn't need pram/caber/bromo unless u have high prolactin, but high p usually comes from high estrogen. if e is in check USUALLY p will be to, not always.
Letro>aromasin>arimidex as for potency. plus aromasin is less harsh on blood lipids n can raise igf levels.
instead of pram have you tried caber? less sides..
tren will shut you down hard, i doubt letro will make your recovery much harder with the tren shutdown
its not exactly more pinning but just more oil if you add mast (which mast lowers e plus has synergy with tren) whether its short or long ester as u can pin everything together
make sure you add nolva after tren/deca clears (nolva can cause prolactin increase with nor-19s) and run test slightly longer
500mg deca is a bit much for joint aid, i would think benefits kick in for that in 200-300 (but not everyone gets the lubrication)
have u tried running test lower than tren? that would lower e automatically as less test is less aromatization, instead of high test n high AI
tren sides can be decreased by lower e
...maybe something like 300 test p, 250 nnp, regular tren dose? as for injects
personally i run my test lower than my tren for multiple reasons, but also to keep e n tren sides down.
also the .25/250 was for ED
I agree with nearly everything above^^^ most of your issue is comming from the large and unneccessary test dose along with a huge total of 19nor.
Fix your doses and I bet your issues will go away and your gains will be as good!
250mg test
200 mg deca
700-800mg tren
there just is no reason for a gram of test when using 700mg tren
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