first time user, tren A and test 400. need help!

[moe sizlack]

Ok so i bought Tren A and test 400. first off, what should my dosages be, and when and what should i take through out the week. Im doing a 6 week cycle. Im 21, 6'3" male at 156 pounds.
thanks in advance.

[Lunk1]

So...21 and my guess is this is your first cycle and out the gate with Tren?

We wish you a Merry Xmas, we wish you a Merry Xmas, we wish you a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

[Soar]

Ok so i bought Tren A and test 400. first off, what should my dosages be, and when and what should i take through out the week. Im doing a 6 week cycle. Im 21, 6'3" male at 156 pounds.
thanks in advance.

First off I'd drop the tren for first cycle. And not to sound like a dink but 6'3" 156lb you should hit the nutrition section for bulking. Tren sounds amazing but it's gonna be nasty for first cycle. It's also a shorter ester and you'll be pinning allot more frequently then you will with the t400

[MickeyKnox]

21 and 156lbs...will the nonsense ever end?

You need to eat! If you do a cycle now, you likely will not keep any of it because you have not built a foundation for any new muscle to grow on. You first need to build some solid dense muscle in order to maintain any new muscle. Then, you need to eat more to maintain your new muscle. You see, it’s all about eating. Figure out your TDEE and up your cals at least 500 each day to gain some weight. Workout regularly and eat a high calorie clean balanced diet. There's no magic pill. The magic is EATING.

Plus youre too young bro. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

You need to learn to eat properly before you learn to use AAS.

Post your intended diet here including macros and the pros in there will assist you in tweaking your diet to fit your intended goals. Good luck!

Nutritional Forum

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...M#.UHNufa7X_fs

Hard Gainers - Gaining Weight

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...!#.UISXU2fX_ft

[Lunk1]

It's not even summer beach body season yet Mick...wait till March or so....

[MickeyKnox]

Good gawd..i can hardly wait.

[Soar]

Yea then you'll have my silly questions to answer lol

[Lunk1]

Yea then you'll have my silly questions to answer lol

Get them out now before he blows a gasket Those Canadians are wound a bit tight...frozen nuts and all!

[Soar]

Lmao ill save them for a rainy day haha

[moe sizlack]

lets say i go through with it anyways, and i come off of it properly, what dosages should i be taking?

[Soar]

lets say i go through with it anyways, and i come off of it properly, what dosages should i be taking?

What's in the t400? Different labs have different mixtures. As for the tren I have absolutely no idea. Depends if you like to sleep.

This may sound like the ideal cycle due to how powerful tren is and how many mg/ml you get with t400, but it's not wise.

You'll get better gains by eating a sh!t ton of food tho

[Lunk1]

lets say i go through with it anyways, and i come off of it properly, what dosages should i be taking?

If you go through with it please consider dropping the tren...read some of those posts that Mick linked for you. There are a number of ppl who have come on here within the last week even who are experiencing alot of issues because of cycling young and cycling tren with no experience or idea what it does to a person.

Cycling young is Russian Roulette...you may be fine but you may drop the hammer on the loaded chamber. Are the risks worth the rewards is the measure we all use. Yopur risks are greater and therefore the rewards are not really worth it. Hell I waited till I was 35 man...whats the hurry???

[moe sizlack]

I eat alot, i also take mutant mass everyday, 2 scoops when i wake up and 2 before bed/with dinner. its so hard for me to gain weight

[Lunk1]

Everyone says its hard to gain weight...if its that hard you wont gain using steroids. gaining size even on steroids is 100% diet dependent. Give us a look at your full daily food intake. What would you say if I told you that we could help you reach your goals without risking your health??

[moe sizlack]

please just answer the questions :P

[Lunk1]

please just answer the questions :P

Happy Holidays...good luck!

[pitchindude]

please just answer the questions :P

Nobody wants to answer the question because what you're doing is dumb as hell. There're many threads you can look at to see that your first cycle is test only. And your 21 and weigh only in the 150's. Nobody wants to be responsible for you hurting yourself.

[kingcali]

6'3 156lbs... damn u are a skinny one.. grumb down on some steak and potatoes.. and corn it seems to work for them country boys when all they eat is rice and gravey and corn..why they called corn fed..

then if i was you i would listen to what these VETS are telling you.. i came on this forum planning a test prop and tren ace cycle and listened to what i was told and did my research and i am glad i changed my mind and did some research.. that tren brings some serious sides with it and if you do not understand which sides you are getting you will not know which AIs to take to combat the issues.. much less which pct protcols u will need to help ur body get bac on track after the cycle ...

do yourself a really big favor and look into what the VETS have told you...

[Brick]

Learn to eat man. I probably eat more in a day when I am cutting then when you are trying to bulk.

Ditch the mutant mass. It's priced cheap because it's garbage.

Get a bag of potatoes, rice, oatmeal and a box of chicken breast. Eat everything as soon as you buy it. Go back to grocery store. Repeat.

[moe sizlack]

First off I'd drop the tren for first cycle. And not to sound like a dink but 6'3" 156lb you should hit the nutrition section for bulking. Tren sounds amazing but it's gonna be nasty for first cycle. It's also a shorter ester and you'll be pinning allot more frequently then you will with the t400

Im starting by only doing test, just did a shot, doing my next one saturday. going to do my ten shots, and eat as healthy and as much as possible, along with my mutant mass shakes. What do you suggest i do after ive done this first bottle of test? i am also selling my tren to my buddy, so i can purchase something less "intense" later.
thanks in advance

[ma_fighter]

Dude, seriously.. You have already gotten the advice you need, from people that KNOW what the f*ck they're talking about. But just because it's not what you want to hear, you're ignoring it.

Let me put it to you in a very simple way

IF YOU CANNOT GROW WITHOUT STEROIDS, YOU CANNOT GROW WITH STEROIDS EITHER

How many calories do you eat per day? how many grams of protein? I'm prepared to bet you have no f*ing idea.
It's ALL about how and what you eat in a case like yours.

Think of it this way:
You want to build a house (your body), you have 25 workers working for you, but you're only giving them 5 bricks and a rooftile a day (protein/food), obviously progress is going to be faaaaaaaaar from optimal. Your "solution" is employing another 200 workers, but STILL only giving 'em 5 bricks and a rooftile to share amongst themselves, how the h*ll do you expect progress when you're simply not supplying the buildingblocks needed?

What you SHOULD be doing is giving the 25 people you already have more building materials, build a good solid foundation, and THEN, maybe employ more people.

I hope you get the analogy.

AAS are not "magic pills" that will do whatever it is that you wish, IF your diet and training are in check (and you're certainly not one of those people) then they can be a TOOL to, depending on diet, help you gain muscle faster or maintain more muscle when cutting.


Tell us exactly what you mean by "Eating as healthy and as much as possible" please. Give us a breakdown of your macros (protein/carbs/fat) and daily cals.
You really need to know exactly how much you're eating.

[ghettoboyd]

simply put op, if you don't listen to the previous posts and dive into this with no real plan then be ready for some major disappointment and possibly health complications...no one here is holding you back and most are giving advise through actual real world experience...we see peeps like you here everyday and we try to steer them in the most productive/safest way possible...good luck...

[Novyman]

if he's going to do it, he's going to do it...

drop the tren for sure and just do test, the tren will make you sick and the test will make you bigger anyway.

do 1 cc every 5 days for about a month and see where you're at...and if youll need another bottle...just dont do too much because youll really shut down your natural test and need to always do that much. Less is more....

just sayin if youre gonna do it....but im a newbie too, what do I know. Ill tell you I have done a bottle of test here, and a bottle there when I was young like you....i didnt keep most of my gains ill tell u that, and i found i got bigger by doing only a cc every 5-7 days then doing anymore then that. Just dont do the tren thats a horrible idea.

[DB1982]

Dude you setting yourself up to fail plain and simple.
Everyone is giving you sound advice n your choosing to ignore them because you want immediate gains.

On top off that your 6'3" 156lbs. Just from that everyone can tell you are nowhere near ready for AAS.

What are your plans for PCT and Ai??

Nobody is trying to stop you from succeeding in your goal we'd just rather you do it the right way.
You have HUGE potential because of your height. So listen to the VETS around here I guarantee you'll be amazed.
Either way I hope the best for ya buddy

[warmouth]

I eat alot, i also take mutant mass everyday, 2 scoops when i wake up and 2 before bed/with dinner. its so hard for me to gain weight

You might "think" you eat alot, but your stats are giving you away. Most of all our diets arent where they should be until 405 or Gbrice tells us differently. At 6'3" and 156lbs, no way you are eating enough. Id like to see a pic.

[kingcali]

Im starting by only doing test, just did a shot, doing my next one saturday. going to do my ten shots, and eat as healthy and as much as possible, along with my mutant mass shakes. What do you suggest i do after ive done this first bottle of test? i am also selling my tren to my buddy, so i can purchase something less "intense" later.
thanks in advance

so you goin to run test by itself... at least you took the advice to leave tren alone... now you need to start researching what sides come along with test, and look up PCT protocols to take after your cycle.. if you want to attempt to keep a % of your gains you will do some research everyday for a few hours until you inderstand estro sides, and how to get your natural test production strarted again.. these are only a few topics but once you start finding answers to those u will be towards the right direction.. do not forget this is the HUMAN BODY, people go to college for 6-10 years to attempt to understand the human body.. my point is read and read and read.. cause reading one forum topic that someone made will not give u the understanding you need... research outside of forums.. do everything u can to help your self so u dont destroy your body and end up with tits bigger than the girl u want to sleep with...or nuts the size of pennies..

[Knowledge1]

I have a feeling that this dude might get himself in a big trouble, since he doesn't know what he's doing. People come here for advice but they don't listen, so what's the point of asking anyone else opinion if you're not going to listen.