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    What are signs i need to adjust ai?

    I'm 6-7 weeks into my deca 300 wk test 500 wk... I'm running my AI at .25 a day...

    What are common signs that estrogen is to high or low?

    Overall feel good, no acne, no nipple sensitivity, massive gains in strength... Sometimes I feel I am carrying a little bit more water and thoughts are not quite as positive as usual....

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    My biggest indicator is BP and labido...if both are GTG then my E2 is where I feel it needs to be

    Being a bit bloated can easily be a diet issue vs high E2

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    .25 of which AI?

    sounds good then. deca will give u bloat even with an AI (for me anyways). bump up the cardio, lower sodium, n drink more water.

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    Blood work is the only "sure fire" way to tell.

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    ED issues, mood.

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    Is there a reason your at .25 (I assume adex) ed vs EOD to start??

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    Yeah I did everyday at first to make sure I didn't get any estrogen related issues... I think I should change to Eod... I think the bloat is just the increase in test deca and quick weight gains... It is not very noticeable... My mood is slightly off but who knows what that could be from!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chx beach 79 View Post
    Yeah I did everyday at first to make sure I didn't get any estrogen related issues... I think I should change to Eod... I think the bloat is just the increase in test deca and quick weight gains... It is not very noticeable... My mood is slightly off but who knows what that could be from!
    Taking too much a crushing your E2 is not a good idea. Always good to start low and work up...I would never consider using "bloat" as a determining factor unless I ran comps and knew my diet to the gram

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Taking too much a crushing your E2 is not a good idea. Always good to start low and work up...I would never consider using "bloat" as a determining factor unless I ran comps and knew my diet to the gram
    Yeah good advice... I have always had one of those mind sets that estrogen is a bad thing, even though it is needed! I've gained a lot of quality size and I'm sure the bloat has something to do with that...

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    If you find yourself shopping at Victoria's Secret and think how cute that bra would look on you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131 View Post
    If you find yourself shopping at Victoria's Secret and think how cute that bra would look on you....
    I happen to love my visits there lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soar View Post
    I happen to love my visits there lmao
    Is that why your chest is blacked out in your avi pic? Wearing a strapless pump up bra? lol

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    Hormones, as with many things, need to be maintained within a range. Too little of any hormone will produce problems just as too much of a hormone will do the same. Keeping E2 within normal physiological ranges is ideal, however high doses of AIs or low doses for extended periods will cause secondary health problems.

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    All of those things are great for me but just so much talk of ai makes me want to get my levels checked soon just to see were my E is. Last time i ran labs my E was below 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    My biggest indicator is BP and labido...if both are GTG then my E2 is where I feel it needs to be

    Being a bit bloated can easily be a diet issue vs high E2

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027
    All of those things are great for me but just so much talk of ai makes me want to get my levels checked soon just to see were my E is. Last time i ran labs my E was below 70
    Never hurts to know where levels are at so you can adjust if needed and gives some peace of mind as well.

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    I'm about to retest but I'm waiting on some caber to see where prolactin lies as well. I might get the E2 tested alone to see if the AI lowered the prolactin on it's own. Lunk believes this and he was right about the E2 so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    I'm about to retest but I'm waiting on some caber to see where prolactin lies as well. I might get the E2 tested alone to see if the AI lowered the prolactin on it's own. Lunk believes this and he was right about the E2 so....
    let me know please if you find a reliable place to have this done in the islands. i really don't have any confidence in the hospital here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmms View Post
    let me know please if you find a reliable place to have this done in the islands. i really don't have any confidence in the hospital here.
    Yea, got it done right here in the clinic. Shipped it to a lab in Surat Thani. I'd think it would be easier for you. You try any of that sex compound yet? Been thinking about getting some...

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    Wooooe. Did you say sex compound...pming you my addy Titan

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Yea, got it done right here in the clinic. Shipped it to a lab in Surat Thani. I'd think it would be easier for you. You try any of that sex compound yet? Been thinking about getting some...
    clinics must be the only option as the hospital here is clueless. there is a lab here on this island that processes all the samples i'm just not very confident in them getting the "sensitive assay for men" correct. yes, i've tried the pt141 it works quite well for libido and performance, only downside is taking it literally hours in advance as it takes a while to start working. send me a pm and i'll send you a bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmms View Post
    clinics must be the only option as the hospital here is clueless. there is a lab here on this island that processes all the samples i'm just not very confident in them getting the "sensitive assay for men" correct. yes, i've tried the pt141 it works quite well for libido and performance, only downside is taking it literally hours in advance as it takes a while to start working. send me a pm and i'll send you a bottle.
    AWESOME MAN!!! PMing as we speak.

    Yup Lunk, you read it right!! SEX COMPOUND!!! It's derived from melotonin II (misspelled). Works on men and women. CNN did a special and called it the Barbie doll drug. The main thing is burn free tanning. Also a fat burner. And also cranks libido out of sight. Kmms has some pt141 which I believe is just the libido fragment. I'm going to dose my already new hot Thai girlfriend to the gills on it. She's a 4-5 times a day girl to begin with. After she started 10 mg of Var ed she went to the next level. Can't wait to see what happens next!! Suffice it to say cardio on the tread mill is a thing of the past for me now!!!!
    Last edited by The Titan99; 12-16-2012 at 09:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99
    AWESOME MAN!!! PMing as we speak.

    Yup Lunk, you read it right!! SEX COMPOUND!!! It's derived from melotonin II (misspelled). Works on men and women. CNN did a special and called it the Barbie doll drug. The main thing is burn free tanning. Also a fat burner. And also cranks libido out of sight. Kmms has some pt141 which I believe is just the libido fragment.
    Interesting.....I'll be looking into this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Interesting.....I'll be looking into this.
    Please forward me your findings

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Interesting.....I'll be looking into this.
    Yea man, AR-R has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Yea man, AR-R has it.
    ArR has Pt141 but is that the same thing your talking about???

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    Yea, that's what Kmms has. I would personally get the Melanotan II. I'd like to brown the girl as well. Anyone living here trying to tan a Thai girl is like trying to talk a man into shortening his dick. They like the white skin!! Anyway, if she let's me brown her up then it truly shows allegiance to the Titan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99
    Yea man, AR-R has it.
    Thanks Titan. Good timing. I have to place an order!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Please forward me your findings
    You're gonna want pics too I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    Thanks Titan. Good timing. I have to place an order!
    Will the HAW let ya inject that in her? Plus I think it takes 3-4 hours to kick in I believe....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Will the HAW let ya inject that in her? Plus I think it takes 3-4 hours to kick in I believe....
    The HAW lets me do anything......so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Will the HAW let ya inject that in her? Plus I think it takes 3-4 hours to kick in I believe....
    at least. first time i tried it was two weeks into pct and libido was extinct. it took over 12 hours to let me know it was doing its job. now that pct is over it takes anywhere from 4-6 hours so we dose it on weekend mornings and play all night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleInk View Post
    The HAW lets me do anything......so far.
    She let inject what ever I want where ever I want, whenever I want. Was shooting her with100 mg Deca for quite a while but she weight and lifts went up so fast (49 kg to 58 kg) that she was worrying a little so I dropped it and am waiting on some Primo. She went from typical hot Thai chic to Rio Carnival dancer in 3 1/2 months. Ass like Gracie Ann now!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmms View Post
    at least. first time i tried it was two weeks into pct and libido was extinct. it took over 12 hours to let me know it was doing its job. now that pct is over it takes anywhere from 4-6 hours so we dose it on weekend mornings and play all night.
    SWEET!! Mines been gone up north to put down a labor insurrection at the pineapple farm. Been gone since last tuesday and will be back on Wedsnday. Got big plans for her and taking the day off. You got a pair if I remember right. And yea Lunk, you can definitely get that hooked up over here!!! Come on over, we got the cia and all you can eat hot young Asian chics!!! LOL!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    Yea, that's what Kmms has. I would personally get the Melanotan II. I'd like to brown the girl as well. Anyone living here trying to tan a Thai girl is like trying to talk a man into shortening his dick. They like the white skin!! Anyway, if she let's me brown her up then it truly shows allegiance to the Titan!!
    just be cautious with melanotan, if you get much sun exposure after taking it you are going to have some problems. difficult to live here and not get sun exposure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    SWEET!! Mines been gone up north to put down a labor insurrection at the pineapple farm. Been gone since last tuesday and will be back on Wedsnday. Got big plans for her and taking the day off. You got a pair if I remember right. And yea Lunk, you can definitely get that hooked up over here!!! Come on over, we got the cia and all you can eat hot young Asian chics!!! LOL!!
    dude, i was driving the very first car stopped by the pineapple protesters last year. remember when the entire highway was blocked for hours and hours? i was sitting there with a birds eye view the whole time. glad it's only a memory now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99
    She let inject what ever I want where ever I want, whenever I want. Was shooting her with100 mg Deca for quite a while but she weight and lifts went up so fast (49 kg to 58 kg) that she was worrying a little so I dropped it and am waiting on some Primo. She went from typical hot Thai chic to Rio Carnival dancer in 3 1/2 months. Ass like Gracie Ann now!!!!
    Lol. That's awesome! My HAW is a little timid about most things although I do have her on the GW-PPAR compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Titan99 View Post
    SWEET!! Mines been gone up north to put down a labor insurrection at the pineapple farm. Been gone since last tuesday and will be back on Wedsnday. Got big plans for her and taking the day off. You got a pair if I remember right. And yea Lunk, you can definitely get that hooked up over here!!! Come on over, we got the cia and all you can eat hot young Asian chics!!! LOL!!



    I appreciate the offer big man...not my thing. I love my good old apple pie and american women. You knock a cpl out ijn my honor though Just please don't think of me during lol

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    Thailand is on my bucket list. I can't wait to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likelifting
    Thailand is on my bucket list. I can't wait to go.
    I'm pretty sure if I make it to Thailand, I won't be leaving.

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