Single Substance Cycle

[bigtom85]

I am going to be starting my first cycle soon and wanted to only use on substance, I access to the following:

primbolan depot and tabs
winstrol depot and tabas
anavar

If I have to pick one, which should I pick?

According to steroidrankings.com primobolan depot seems the way to go, thoughts?

[Bio-Active]

None

[canesfan804]

I think you are gonna find most will say Test Cyp or Test Enth only for your 1st cycle.

[canesfan804]

Also what are your stats?

[Bio-Active]

Any cycle should have test as the base

[MuscleInk]

Correct on the above. You should only run a test based cycle only of either test-C or test-e

[MickeyKnox]

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[MickeyKnox]

Welcome!


Test ONLY first cycle.


Most Common Beginners Cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.UJZv62fX_fs

[songdog]

Stats Bro

[austinite]

If a single compound is to be used, nothing other than testosterone is your safest bet. Assuming stats are appropriate, of course.

[t-gunz]

the boys above have covered it clearly please take on board the advice as long as your ready.

[bigtom85]

how much of these gains could I expect to keep?... test seems excessive for a first cycle.

im six feet, two hundred six pounds and about fourteen percent bf.

[Bio-Active]

Test is the base of all cycles. What is your plan for PCT?

[bigtom85]

whatever is reccomended, I just dont see how ill keep these gains.

[Bio-Active]

Gains are maintained by diet and PCT. It looks like you need to spend some more time researching. What are your stats?

[bigtom85]

26, 6"0, 206, about 14% bf

[COJACK]

Test E was what I ran my first cycle. A clean diet,hcg and a good pct will help you keep some of your gains.

[Bio-Active]

How is your nutrition plan and whats your plan for PCT?

[bigtom85]

I like the 30/30/30 diet at about 3200 cals, dont wanna get any fatter.. I dont know anything about PCT, it seems everybody says "throw some test" in their without really thinking it through... if you look at the sprinter Ben Johnson, he only ran winstrol and he has a great physique

[Bio-Active]

You never really know what anyone else is doing for sure. I would be interested to see your meal plan with macros included.

[bigtom85]

My nutrition is pretty good, I have a spread sheet I can upload... but its roughly 33% protein, 33% carbs, 33% fat and 2200 cals now and will bump it up to 3200 cals if do the gear.

[bigtom85]

I respect everyones opinion hear, but im thinking of doing about 300mg of Schering Primo Depot (if I can find the real stuff) for about 12 weeks, dont think ill need PCT for that.

[Back In Black]

My nutrition is pretty good, I have a spread sheet I can upload... but its roughly 33% protein, 33% carbs, 33% fat and 2200 cals now and will bump it up to 3200 cals if do the gear.

Post it in the diet forum with your stats and the reason for that split and also the reason for increasing 1000cals if you don't wanna get any fatter. Having said that, I assume you have been cutting?

[bigtom85]

Typical Day..
Meal 1 - Shredded Wheat with full fat milk - 600 cals, 30 pro, 98 carb, 12 fat
Meal 2 - Tub of Oikos Greek lime yogurt - 486 cals, 40 pro, 66 carb, 9 fat
Meal 3 - Avocado - 322 cals, 4 pro, 17 carb, 30 fat
Meal 4 - 2 Scoop whey shake after gym - 300 cals, 50 protein, 12 carb, 6 fat
Meal 5 - 6 egg omelete, with egg white carton - 540 36 pro, 6 carb, 30 fat

I figure increasing by 1000 cals would make the cycle more worth while.

[Back In Black]

You nutrition really isn't 'pretty good', you should spend some time reading the stickies in the nutrition forum. An overhaul of your diet will give you great changes whilst you re-evaluate your cycle.

[Bio-Active]

Typical Day..
Meal 1 - Shredded Wheat with full fat milk - 600 cals, 30 pro, 98 carb, 12 fat
Meal 2 - Tub of Oikos Greek lime yogurt - 486 cals, 40 pro, 66 carb, 9 fat
Meal 3 - Avocado - 322 cals, 4 pro, 17 carb, 30 fat
Meal 4 - 2 Scoop whey shake after gym - 300 cals, 50 protein, 12 carb, 6 fat
Meal 5 - 6 egg omelete, with egg white carton - 540 36 pro, 6 carb, 30 fat


I figure increasing by 1000 cals would make the cycle more worth while.

You need to hit up the nutrition forum bro i know you are saying you are going to bump up the cals but your diet needs a lot of work! Were are the complex carbs? Were are the greens? Your soueces for protein could be much better

[bigtom85]

Could I see a sample day of your nutrition?

[Back In Black]

Could I see a sample day of your nutrition?

Everybody is different based on their stats and goals.

Nutrition forum is your friend, spend some time there and really learn how to put a diet plan together.

Complex carbs pre and post workout are a must. I'd argue your protein is way too low and fats way too high.

[Bio-Active]

sure if i can figure out how to attache a excel file?

[Bio-Active]

Meal 1 4 am

Protein 1 Whole Egg White + Yolk 7 1 6 82
Protein 8 Partial Egg Whites 18 0 0 102
Carbohydrate 0.5 CUP OATMEAL (dry) 10 54 6 300
Vegetable N/A 0 0 0 0

Meal 2 7 am

Protein 1 OZ Egg White+ Yolk 36 0 2 82
Carbohydrate 2 1/2 Pieces Ezekiel Bread 10 40 1 180
Vegetable 1 CUP Vegtable 0 0 0 0

Meal 3 10 Am

Protein 6 OZ Chicken Breast 99% Fat Free 42 0 10 246
Carbohydrate Half CUP Brown Rice 2 23 0 110


Meal 4 1pm

Protein 6 OZ Chicken Breast 99% Fat Free 42 0 10 246
Carbohydrate 1 CUP Sweet Potatoe 4 40 1 130
Vegetable 1 CUP Vegtable 0 0 0 0


Meal 5 430 PM

Protein 6 OZ Chicken Breast 99% Fat Free 42 0 10 246
OZ 0
Vegetable 1 CUP Vegtable 0 0 0 0

Fats 1 Serving of almonds
Meal 6 7Pm

Protein 1 OZ Muscle Milk 25 12 9 230
OZ
Vegetable 1 CUP Vegtable 0 0 0 0

This is my cutting diet

[bigtom85]

looks like about 2200 cals... do you do cardio with this diet?

[Bio-Active]

looks like about 2200 cals... do you do cardio with this diet?

I always do cardio after I weight train