planning my first cycle (test P and anavar)

[canuckcaleb]

Hey guys so I'm planning on doing a test prop cycle and anavar how long would you run it and dosages? I have a general idea of what I'm gonna do and dosages also have HCG and nolvadex. Sorry about the un-described post just got off a 11 hour shift.

[diabolicsoul]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cles-Look-here

Great thread with how a beginner cycle should look.

Age, weight? bodyfat%, training experience?

[Wes201]

Post up your stats and goals for a better response. whats your
age
weight
height
body fat
body building/training experience, and what are you looking to achieve from aas

[MickeyKnox]

Since you're only 18 years old, i recommend that you NOT do this cycle or any other for at at least another 6 years or so.

I think a little more reading and research would benefit you, particularly for someone your age. Your natural testosterone levels are sky high right now. I would concentrate on taking advantage of that as you can make tremendous gains in following few short years.

It’s best to know the complications and associated health risks that could affect you should you decide to embark on this journey sooner than later. A few more years to allow your developing endocrine system to finish growing, and then perhaps look at using AAS.

Its also important to understand what it is your putting into your body and the associated roles these compounds play. Otherwise you could be setting yourself up for a host of unwanted side affects including premature closure of your growth plates, Erectile Dysfunction, Gynecomastia (b*tch t*ts), and more..

The Young and Steroids

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.ULk5-mfX_fs

Cycles Gone Wrong for the Young

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...*#.UL2db2fX_fs

[Turkish Juicer]

Even if OP was 25 years old, Anavar would be absolutely unnecessary and even wasteful for his first cycle...

[HCL]

Even if OP was 25 years old, Anavar would be absolutely unnecessary and even wasteful for his first cycle...

What other compounds do you think would also be useless for a first cycle, an d what would be your recomendation? Sry OP for hijaking, but this could be beneficial for you too.

I am askin TJ due to the fact that you seem to be very knowledgable but dont write much, which is a pitty :/

[Turkish Juicer]

^^^ Anything but pure injectable Testosterone is a waste for a first cycle.

Here are my first 4 cycle layouts:

Cycle 1: Sustanon 250 for 12 weeks; dosed at 500mg EW (decided Sustanon wasn't for me after the cycle for various reasons)

Cycle 2: Test Enanthate for 12 weeks dosed at 500mg EW (my body responded to Test E better than it did to Sustanon, but still not overly impressed)

Cycle 3: Test Cypionate for 12 weeks dosed at 500mg EW (i fıgured it wasn't any different than Test E, so it was time to move on to a different Test)

Cycle 4: Test Propionate for 8 weeks dosed at 500mg EW (fell in love with the stuff, it kicked in so fast with so little bloat and by far the best bang for the buck)

By running a different Test ALONE in each cycle, I was able to tell which Test I was going to stick to for the rest of my AAS journey in life...

I listened to guys who were much more experienced and knowledgeable than myself before I started to mess with AAS and the outcome was pure benefit.

Nowadays I will use nothing but Test Prop and unless I am going for a Test only cycle, 90% of the time I will stack it with a short estered injectable DHT, namely Masteron and/or Winstrol if not both, depending on the goal...

[HCL]

^^^ Thank you for the respond.

[songdog]

I agree with the above you are to young.But that doent mean it has to stop there.We have a great diet section which can aid you in packing on that size you want.And in the mean time you can do a lot of research.So when you are old enough to cycle you will be well educated on wat to expect from your cycles.Good luck Bro.

[hobnob]

my first cycle was propionate 100mg eod and anavar 70mg a day for 8 weeks, gained about 20lbs and strength went through the roof and no sides what so ever

[Turkish Juicer]

my first cycle was propionate 100mg eod and anavar 70mg a day for 8 weeks, gained about 20lbs and strength went through the roof and no sides what so ever

I am assuming you did not use an AI in your first cycle since you didn't know about it?

You owed ''no sides'' (at least no ''estrogen sides'' in this case) to a series of coincidences: Test Prop dosed at 100mg EOD equals to 375mg on a weekly basis, which is rather on the low side and Anavar at 70mg ED, which is not only a DHT compound that doesn't aromatize but it also acts as a very mild anti-e as all DHT compounds do, apparently somewhat effective enough for the given dose of Test Prop in your case.

On a personal note, I did not use an AI when I cycled with 750mg Primobolan Depot and 375mg of Test Prop EW for 14 weeks (something I don't choose to do any longer, a thing of the past) and ended the cycle with zero e-related sides. Now, I am not necessarily recommending this practice to anyone, but it was clearly the double dose of DHT over Test that inhibited estrogen build up, as I firmly believe there cannot be any other reasonable explanation to this.

Again, would have been a pretty effective first cycle without the Anavar.