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    why is my test sticking to the vial and look like it has spider webs in it???????

    like i said i went to give myself a shot tonite for trt and it looks like its congealing and/or has like crystals running thru it.. wtf??????

    can i still use it ive never seen this before!

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    [QUOTE=--->>405<<---;6301953]like i said i went to give myself a shot tonite for trt and it looks like its congealing and/or has like crystals running thru it.. wtf??????

    can i still use it ive never seen this before! [/QUOTE
    are you storing it at room temp in a dark place? run hot water over it and i bet the crystals dissolve
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    which brand and ester?

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    This ^^^^ all that means is that you either got some high concentration test or they got cheap with the cosolvents.

    PS if you heat it and it holds overnight at room temp its usually going to be pain free. If it crashes again as soon as it cools this means it will do the same in the muscle causing PIP, if that is the case add some BB and prob another 1% BA just to be safe.

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    Yes, you should be able to reconstitute it. I am suprised Bona hasnt chimed in yet

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    i got it from the compounding pharmacy. test cyp 200mg/mL wtf??

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    Isn't this pharma grade TRT? just take it back and get a new FULL one

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    Lunk for the win!!!! Actually though a lot of pharm grade has hot water instructions on the package insert, maybe since its a compounded deal though you can get a cheerful exchange.

    Did you leave it outside of anything else that would let it get cold? if so its not their fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    This ^^^^ all that means is that you either got some high concentration test or they got cheap with the cosolvents.

    PS if you heat it and it holds overnight at room temp its usually going to be pain free. If it crashes again as soon as it cools this means it will do the same in the muscle causing PIP, if that is the case add some BB and prob another 1% BA just to be safe.
    i dont even know what 1% ba is LOL..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Isn't this pharma grade TRT? just take it back and get a new FULL one
    I had the same thing happen and they called it a normal occurrence. Let it sit in warm water over night and the crystals dissolved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Isn't this pharma grade TRT? just take it back and get a new FULL one
    yeh i suppose i ca do that tomorrow. was supposed to shoot tonite but i guess it can wait..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    I had the same thing happen and they called it a normal occurrence. Let it sit in warm water over night and the crystals dissolved.
    If it's crytalizing that much then I am assuming the BA/BB ratio is bad and will do the same thing once injecting causing a hellish PIP. Did it hurt Jim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    yeh i suppose i ca do that tomorrow. was supposed to shoot tonite but i guess it can wait..
    Warm it, shoot it, then toss it in the freezer and bring it back tomorrow... And get a full one lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    If it's crytalizing that much then I am assuming the BA/BB ratio is bad and will do the same thing once injecting causing a hellish PIP. Did it hurt Jim?
    No PIP i even called the lab and they said it happens. They told if the crystals didn't dissolve to return it to the pharmacy and have it replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    i dont even know what 1% ba is LOL..
    BA is Benzyl Alcohol

    BB is Benzyl Benzoate

    In any case since its from a pharmacy, no worries you most likely won't have to add anything. Just heat and it should be fine. Still curious if it got cold? if so then thats surely the cause and reconstituting with heat will cure it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    Warm it, shoot it, then toss it in the freezer and bring it back tomorrow... And get a full one lol
    LOL i suppose if i were shooting more than .3mL it might be worth it but i dont feel like dealing with PIP although i dont know if u can get that from sub q or not? however i will be dealing with pip from the carnitine 3mL shot i have to give myself in the am in the butt. dont want 2 pips at the same time..

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    no its been in my favorite drawer (with all the other test bottles and needles hehe) where ive never had a prob its 70 degrees in my bathroom..

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    I wouldn't chance it bro. And i didn't realize it was from a pharmacy?? Even better! Like Lunk suggested, just take it back for a new one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    no its been in my favorite drawer (with all the other test bottles and needles hehe) where ive never had a prob its 70 degrees in my bathroom..
    C'mon man...stop storing gear in a bathroom where ppl piss and shyt . You ever see those tests they do on ppls toothbrushes and all the fecal matter??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    I wouldn't chance it bro. And i didn't realize it was from a pharmacy?? Even better! Like Lunk suggested, just take it back for a new one.
    yeh thats just what im gonna do! thx.. ill be curious to hear their reasoning. they should have to give me an extra vial for my trouble!

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

    LOL i suppose if i were shooting more than .3mL it might be worth it but i dont feel like dealing with PIP although i dont know if u can get that from sub q or not? however i will be dealing with pip from the carnitine 3mL shot i have to give myself in the am in the butt. dont want 2 pips at the same time..
    Touché! Well best of luck to you either way. I had 2 bottles crash from medistar and it was a pain in the ass... And quad... And delt...no refunds, no exchange lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    C'mon man...stop storing gear in a bathroom where ppl piss and shyt . You ever see those tests they do on ppls toothbrushes and all the fecal matter??
    well my shitjack has a door separate from where the sink and cabinets are. does that help? and the only pissing and shitting going on in there is from me. my wife uses another bathroom cuz she says i pee on the toilet seat in the middle of the night LOL..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    C'mon man...stop storing gear in a bathroom where ppl piss and shyt . You ever see those tests they do on ppls toothbrushes and all the fecal matter??
    You know that guy who loves to cross those lines frequently- and always has something to say that makes u think "I can't believe he went there"


    That's you lunk- you're THAT GUY! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by >Good Luck< View Post
    You know that guy who loves to cross those lines frequently- and always has something to say that makes u think "I can't believe he went there"


    That's you lunk- you're THAT GUY! lol
    Not sure if thats good or bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by --->>405<<--- View Post
    well my shitjack has a door separate from where the sink and cabinets are. does that help? and the only pissing and shitting going on in there is from me. my wife uses another bathroom cuz she says i pee on the toilet seat in the middle of the night LOL..
    Fair enough...lol.

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    If it has not been cold they fvkd up plain and simple. Have them send me a PM and I will let them know how to brew test....JK

    The wierd thing is that they say the problem is common, wonder if they are too cheap to use enough BB. Or really taking a longshot maybe they got some bunk test...would be funny if they got a batch that was mislabeled or half cyp and half prop....I doubt they do a melt test so its entirely possible even major suppliers make mistakes every now and then.

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    ill be inquiring tomorrow. although theyll prob give me some line of b.s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    If it has not been cold they fvkd up plain and simple. Have them send me a PM and I will let them know how to brew test....JK

    The wierd thing is that they say the problem is common, wonder if they are too cheap to use enough BB. Or really taking a longshot maybe they got some bunk test...would be funny if they got a batch that was mislabeled or half cyp and half prop....I doubt they do a melt test so its entirely possible even major suppliers make mistakes every now and then.
    FFM..I used a compound pharm for a cycle once. I was told that the quality is not always a good as you would expect.

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    My buddy has the same with test c,,he shook it up a lil.i shot some im fine.

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    Wtf, I only ever had that happen @400mg/ml or above..
    But it's just like people have said before me, if it stays dissolved a day after you heat it, you'll be ok.

    However, if it crashes again, it will hurt like a motherf*'er after you pin it IM, like ground glass deep inside your muscle! SubQ it'll just be sore, no biggie.
    /Maf

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    Sounds like they are just being cheap and didnt use enough BA/BB as said. If it was me and I didnt want to bother taking it back I would just add a little EO since it also thins it out a little and makes it hold better. (so ive been told)
    Do the hot water trick first and see how that goes. Hopefully it will hold.

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    Or tech who made it was sloppy and inaccurate

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    Well im getting another vial. Only downside is its gonna be 100mg/mL but no biggie. They said they had complaints from a lot of people and the pharmacist said it happens this time of year cuz its cold. I say thats bs cuz it has been in my house for 2 weeks!

    Either way he said the 100mg/mL stuff will not do that.

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    Make sure 100% it's not going to crash before you inject. I got a little greedy with some injectable drol I made and pinned too soon. It was the worst pip I've ever had. I thought I had gotten the recipe down but it still crashed. I now wait a few days after I make something to be safe.

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    Im surprised cyp at 200mg/ml is doing that. No biggie - it sounds like its crashing...just surprised. I have cyp at 250mg/ml holding beautifully...
    Im sure they will exchange it.

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    I do inject subq as well. Maybe if it does crash it wont be as bad. I may stop doing business with these people and just go to walgreens. Im having to get re-imbursed cuz cvs is still out of cyp. So i can go anywhere.

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    If its pharm grade that seems sketchy to me but Fvck if I know. I'm on that home brew time.

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    I had Test Undecanoate @400mg/ml crash on me, didn't have any solvents, so I just tried adding more, filtered, oil. Then borrowing a friends autoclave.
    Worked fine, even though I lowered the concentration of the solvents. I think this might be because the long estered stuff dissolves well in fat.

    If you get stuff at 100mg/ml, and are feeling a bit cheap, you could mix the two. Should keep it from crashing.

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    I have heard of compounding pharms being less that quality...I only used the big one in Florida that got in major trouble but consider that a supposedly legit compounding pharm was making Tren ...lol. What does that tell ya??

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    But wait Lunk according to a post I read a little while ago, Tren the future of TRT :-)

    I would definately stay away from that pharm?ass-y If they gotta make their cyp at 100mg/ml they obviously have no business compounding AAS.

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