Creatine questions.

**Pitching phenom** · 12-18-2012, 12:14 AM

I had a question about creatine. I've been taking for about 3 weeks along with other substances. I was wondering if it would be safe to use 2 scoops maybe 3? My baseball teammates say 3 scoops is bad and never use more than 2 and they say 2 is pushing it.

Your thoughts.

**pitchindude** · 12-18-2012, 12:22 AM

Originally Posted by Pitching phenom

I had a question about creatine. I've been taking for about 3 weeks along with other substances. I was wondering if it would be safe to use 2 scoops maybe 3? My baseball teammates say 3 scoops is bad and never use more than 2 and they say 2 is pushing it.

Your thoughts.

This belongs in the supplement section.

It would be perfectly safe but wasteful. You'll piss most of it out. Your teammates must be of the bro-science persuasion.

**Pitching phenom** · 12-18-2012, 12:56 AM

My fault about putting it in the wrong section, but do I have to drink a gallon per serving of creatine or what? I've heard shit that Creatine can **** up your kidneys if u don't drink enough water.

**Spicey** · 12-18-2012, 12:59 AM

Creatine is the least of your worries. Safest supplement in existence no ?

**ScotchGuard02** · 12-18-2012, 01:06 AM

During the creatine saturation period, about a week to 10 days, you take 20g/ed. Once your body's saturated with creatine you go down to 5g/ed. That should keep you going pretty good. Creatine is water soluble so you'll piss out whatever you don't use.

**Pitching phenom** · 12-18-2012, 01:06 AM

Alright. My coaches don't like us taking supplements because my team is division 1 and they dont want us to fail a drug test. so I think my coaches are making these false comments to us to scare us into not taking them. But I checked the NCAA supplements list and creatine is legal for NCAA.

**Armykid93** · 12-18-2012, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02

During the creatine saturation period, about a week to 10 days, you take 20g/ed. Once your body's saturated with creatine you go down to 5g/ed. That should keep you going pretty good. Creatine is water soluble so you'll piss out whatever you don't use.

Loading has been proven unnecessary. Just letting you know

**Armykid93** · 12-18-2012, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Pitching phenom

Alright. My coaches don't like us taking supplements because my team is division 1 and they dont want us to fail a drug test. so I think my coaches are making these false comments to us to scare us into not taking them. But I checked the NCAA supplements list and creatine is legal for NCAA.

Your coach sounds like an idiot, no offense but its just like when my parents got mad that I started using protein powder because "it isn't natural". He doesn't want you to fail a drug test? Creatine won't make you fail one, not remotely close. Yes, You need to drink a ton of water everyday. A gallon is a minimum for me when i'm not supplementing creatine, I drink more after i'm using it.

**songdog** · 12-18-2012, 06:44 AM

You got to be careful beacuse sometimes companys put things into their products.And they will hit on a drug test.I cant remember but one of the sports said EAS products were ok..I read this some where a while back.

**Armykid93** · 12-18-2012, 07:43 AM

I know some things will make you piss hot but I thought that was pretty rare.

**samatash** · 12-18-2012, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by Pitching phenom

My fault about putting it in the wrong section, but do I have to drink a gallon per serving of creatine or what? I've heard shit that Creatine can **** up your kidneys if u don't drink enough water.

You worded this pretty badly... No, you don't need to drink a whole gallon of water per serving of creatine. You would mess up yourself if you did.

You obviously mean a gallon per day, but that is completely arbitrary regardless. Your body KNOWS when you need water, ie drink water when you are thirsty. And you don't need to load the creatine. Just take 5g every day.

**Soar** · 12-18-2012, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by Armykid93

I know some things will make you piss hot but I thought that was pretty rare.

Your body has creatine in it naturally so supplementing it isn't an issue as far as I know.

**samatash** · 12-18-2012, 09:23 AM

The body also produces testosterone , so you raise a bit of a moot point.

**stpete** · 12-18-2012, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Pitching phenom

I had a question about creatine. I've been taking for about 3 weeks along with other substances. I was wondering if it would be safe to use 2 scoops maybe 3? My baseball teammates say 3 scoops is bad and never use more than 2 and they say 2 is pushing it.

Your thoughts.

when you say "scoops" sounds like you're using the pre mixed stuff. If so, i'd save some money and just buy the cheapest mono you can find. 5gms directly in your mouth chased w/just about anything in the morning. Then another 5gms pre workout will be just fine. Personally, i take 5gms AM and 10gms pre workout. You won't fail a drug test and what your body doesn't use, you will just piss it out. No biggie.

**reiss c** · 12-18-2012, 09:25 AM

Only side affects I believe is if u don't drink water can affect the kidney but since your working out u should be drinking water like its going out fashion.

**Soar** · 12-18-2012, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by samatash

The body also produces testosterone, so you raise a bit of a moot point.

When was the last time you had to inject creatine lol

**samatash** · 12-18-2012, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Soar

When was the last time you had to inject creatine lol

An exogenous source is an exogenous source--simple as that. Dbol is taken by the mouth, just like creatine. Does that make it ok? To say that creatine is okay to take anyway because the body naturally produces it is also an argument one could make for test.

That being said, in the end I think creatine should be universally allowed. A lot of organizations mistakenly believe it to be on the level of AAS and thus ban it but we all know it's not even close.

**Soar** · 12-18-2012, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by samatash

An exogenous source is an exogenous source--simple as that. To say that creatine is okay to take anyway because the body naturally produces it is also an argument one could make for test.

That being said, in the end I think creatine should be universally allowed. A lot of organizations mistakenly believe it to be on the level of AAS and thus ban it but we all know it's not even close.

Ah I see where you're coming from now, I totally agree. I was accused of steroids as a teen during climbing competitions when all I used was creatine. Personally I love the stuff haha

**samatash** · 12-18-2012, 09:49 AM

Haha, for sure. Even these days if someone asks what supps do you take and you say creatine, they will give you a death stare lol. Oh well, it's their loss.

**kelkel** · 12-18-2012, 09:55 AM

Read this on creatine:

http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/

very informative...

**OdinsOtherSon** · 12-18-2012, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by reiss c

Only side affects I believe is if u don't drink water can affect the kidney but since your working out u should be drinking water like its going out fashion.

I can attest to this personally. I no longer sup with creatine.

**Soar** · 12-18-2012, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Read this on creatine:

http://examine.com/supplements/Creatine/

very informative...

Nice read thx

**magic32** · 12-18-2012, 03:15 PM

I'd like to see the data that shows frontloading Creatine has been disproven.

"They", who is this they that keeps apparently debunking established methodology? They're always trying to disprove something...frontloading is especially effective in such cases (greatly increasing pre-existing substances for sustained elevation levels over substantial time frames) and is expressly recommended for this reason. Pete hit on a pertinent point, you need to define "scoops" in terms of grams for it to be of value in measurement. The basic rules of Creatine as alluded to throughout this thread, are 25 gm/ed for the first week (frontloading) followed by 5 gm/ed for maintenance.

Personally, I find it (monohydrate and phosphate) to be definition blurring and steer clear of it. The theory is that its intra-muscular (within the muscle), not inter-muscular (between the muscles) fluid increase, but the latter seems to be true as well. Also, each version purports to correct this problem. I can't speak for Kre-Alkalyn, as I haven't tried it, because I'd much rather run gear.

**Armykid93** · 12-19-2012, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Soar

Your body has creatine in it naturally so supplementing it isn't an issue as far as I know.

Correct, i'm not saying creatine will make you piss hot. I was saying that its rare but sometimes, supplements containing creatine have other things in them which can make you piss hot. Just take regular mono and you would be fine.

**Armykid93** · 12-19-2012, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

I'd like to see the data that shows frontloading Creatine has been disproven.

"They", who is this they that keeps apparently debunking established methodology? They're always trying to disprove something...frontloading is especially effective in such cases (greatly increasing pre-existing substances for sustained elevation levels over substantial time frames) and is expressly recommended for this reason. Pete hit on a pertinent point, you need to define "scoops" in terms of grams for it to be of value in measurement. The basic rules of Creatine as alluded to throughout this thread, are 25 gm/ed for the first week (frontloading) followed by 5 gm/ed for maintenance.

Personally, I find it (monohydrate and phosphate) to be definition blurring and steer clear of it. The theory is that its intra-muscular (within the muscle), not inter-muscular (between the muscles) fluid increase, but the latter seems to be true as well. Also, each version purports to correct this problem. I can't speak for Kre-Alkalyn, as I haven't tried it, because I'd much rather run gear.

I'm on my phone or id post several articles on why front loading isn't necessary. I've used creatine for a long time now and have never seen better results with front loading. After a month my gains are the same either way. Maybe it works for others though. Idk

**reiss c** · 12-19-2012, 10:57 AM

I personally never load creatine. I find just taking the right amount every day even on off days works best for me ..

**dj erk15** · 01-11-2013, 04:03 AM

Originally Posted by Pitching phenom

I had a question about creatine. I've been taking for about 3 weeks along with other substances. I was wondering if it would be safe to use 2 scoops maybe 3? My baseball teammates say 3 scoops is bad and never use more than 2 and they say 2 is pushing it.

Your thoughts.

Google what is creatine and do some reading on what exeactly it does. Like these guys have already explained alot on ppl do a loading phase upon the start with 15 to 20 grams ed then after they take the sugguested dosage ed. I also agree that creatine is completely safe and will only cause minor sides if u consume too much of it like stomach cramps, diarrhea, bloating and if u dont drink enough water with it u will feel sick.

Side note: Look into creapure creatine, in my op the best creatine out there.