Results 1 to 7 of 7

Thread: Very Lethargic After PCT/ BLOOD WORK INCLUDED

  1. #1

    Very Lethargic After PCT/ BLOOD WORK INCLUDED

    hey guys,
    Age:22
    Height:5'11
    Weight:190
    Bodyfat:~8%

    so first off I know I am too young for gear and I don't want to take anything again I just want to recover and stay natural and get all the natural gains I can before messing with any aas again. This is my 2nd cycle btw, first was just test e 500 a week for 12 weeks.

    just came off a 13 week cycle
    week 1-10 test e 600 week
    week 3-10 tren ace75 a day
    week 10-12 prop 50 every day
    took hcg for the first 4 weeks then ran out

    pct was as follows
    days 1-11 hcg following last prop injection, 1500ius every other day for 11 days
    day 12 started clomid and nolvadex,
    clomid-100/100/50/50
    and novadex 30/30/30/30/30/30

    Now I am switching doctors so I thought I would get bloodwork from my current doctor, and I know it is soon (as these results are 1 week post pct, and I know the nolvadex is still acting in my body increasing my test levels) but I was wondering if you guys can tell me anything from the results. My current doc isn't very thorough so I do not have fsh and lh which I know are probably the most important at a time like this but will retest in 2 weeks, which will be 4 weeks after completition of pct with a full panel.

    CBC and CMP were normal, Test was done at 11:20am
    Testosterone, serum(total)-897 ng/dL
    TSH-2.220 uIU/mL (3.7-8.6)
    t4- 8.3 ug/dL (4.5-12.0)
    t3-130 nd/dL (71-180)
    Now I know without fsh and lh, and as these results are 1 week post pct, this isn't much information as well as truly accurate but I was wondering if you guys could chime in.
    I have really bad anxiety and very bad lethargy, I cannot lift at the gym anymore unless I dab into 1,3 dimethylamine products which I had been avoiding. Now my blood pressure was relatively high 150/100 so I'm sure this is the cause of my anxiety and it will subside as well as the lethargy (most likely caused by tren?) but I'm wondering if you guys can chime in if i look like I'm in a good place hormonally following my pct and thoughts about lethargy. O and my testicles grew very large while in pct which I know is normal from taking clomid, but they have shrunk every since I have stopped and now seem barely bigger then they were on cycle, as well as very decreased ejaculation volume, so I'm hoping that doesn't mean i haveshut down my hpta and am only not shut down while taking clomid or nolvadex
    THANKS!
    Last edited by jomamma007; 12-23-2012 at 01:16 PM.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    L.A
    Posts
    24,705
    How long have you been off the hcg? Looks like 6 weeks?

  3. #3
    8 weeks

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    L.A
    Posts
    24,705
    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007
    8 weeks
    You need to run labs again. Hormones can change very quick

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    USA-New Jersey
    Posts
    1,461
    U need another blood work like a month after PCT is done
    Cuz as Jim said it changes . U might have went down to low testosterone
    And might need more HCg and more agressive PCT
    Good luck!

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    post proelia praemia
    Posts
    9,856
    Quote Originally Posted by Granovich View Post
    U need another blood work like a month after PCT is done
    Cuz as Jim said it changes . U might have went down to low testosterone
    And might need more HCg and more agressive PCT
    Good luck!
    this

    are your macros intended to cut? or have you increased them with the weight gained during cycle? if not then something to consider

    as above you need to wait for a full panel

    i know you dont like 1.3dmaa (send it to me) lol

    how do you handle ephedrine? short term just to get you through this or even simple caffeine?

    lethargic 24/7 or certain times of day

    these are just guesses, the updated bw when the pct meds are cleared will give some accurate info to work off, it may be psychological simply due to coming off cycle, its more common then you think

    unless your cutting then eat eat eat

    e2 and whatnot would be of a great interest to me here also and i suspect that could be an attributing factor especially after the hcg blast, was an a.i used on cycle

    mabey get your own labs this time, exactly what you want tested, not what your doc wants tested, never used them as im on different side of world but privatemdlabs.com is used by alot of members here

  7. #7
    So I just got bloods done again, yes I know its still early two weeks after pct but I get free bloodwork so why not right.
    Testosterone - 865 (348-1197)
    LH- 15.4 HIGH (1.7-8.6)
    FSH- 9.7 (1.5-12.4)
    Estradiol 42.3 (7.6-42.6)
    My estrogen seems a bit on the high side no? could that be the reason for the lethargy? And I'm not currently dieting so it isn't my macros ****ing me. I wake up dead tired and its pretty much 24/7 its even hard to get through a workout nowadays I gas out halfway through.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •