Track and soccer players breakfast of champions? LQQin 4 strength & minimal H2o gain.

**WAK** · 05-06-2003, 06:21 PM

Which gear is it that track and soccer players take? I am looking for speed, and strength while taking something safe (easy on liver and min side effects) Newbie here looking to gain strength and minimal size.

Any suggestions would greatly be apreciated.

WAK

**ARATADOG** · 05-06-2003, 07:01 PM

stats?

**WAK** · 05-06-2003, 07:33 PM

Originally posted by ARATADOG
stats?

5'11", 185 lb 16-18% BF, mostly to cardio 6 days/wk, lift 3 days/wk, legs are much stronger, need to work on more upp body strength, speed, etc..

**ARATADOG** · 05-06-2003, 07:36 PM

age?

**WAK** · 05-06-2003, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by ARATADOG
age?

41, all bios running well

**Whoisdaman** · 05-06-2003, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by WAK
need to work on more upp body strength

Why would you need to work on upper body strength for soccer? I've always put soccer players in the same categories as marathon runners, just too much cardio to keep any quality beef, and no weight training involved (at a minimum if any, and all legs). I'd suggest a cycle of prop and winny, maybe fina. I hear winny is good for getting some nice speed, but I'd prefer someone doing drills before doing AS.

Oh, and how long did you want to run this cycle?

But search around and figure out the drugs on your own, I don't know about everyone else but I won't help plan a cycle unless the individual is sure what he/she is using in the first place.

**kman** · 05-07-2003, 07:06 AM

prop and winny would work great for you, don't run it longer than 8 wks. Drink a lot of water.. milk thrissle.. flax oil seed..winny is tough on the joints but if you are not competing right now i woulds go for a winny test prop cycle as Whoidsdaman mentioned..