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    azzdogg22 is offline New Member
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    need a little help with this cycle..

    Hey guys, just a few questions.
    ive been reading up on tren and test cycles and i dont know what to believe. What do i run it at and all that.
    im 6'2" and 107kgs, ive been lifting since i was 16 and im now 21. I know it seems a little young for someonene like me to be doing any sort of cycle but im starting up mma and wanna bulk and shred a bit more. Ive been lifting for 4 months since my shoulder reco and im keen to get back to going heavy and building.

    Any help would be great, cheers

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    start here.
    http://forums.steroid .com/showthread.php?515562-The-Young-and-Steroids #.UNf7EL_hxv8

    and here.
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UNf7Lb_hxv8

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    Lots of opinions on this, some people run test higher then tren and some do the opposite. Give us stats and cycle history.

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    tren + mma = bad

    will seriously effect you trying to regulate breathing and if you fought before you know that effectivly means your fvcked!

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    what weight are you going to fight at and what is your current bodyfat? look at these pics and tell me what looks closest to you in regards to bodyfat
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UNf87awwaSo

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    azzdogg22 is offline New Member
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    from what ive heard people run test higher then tren to balance it out. This will be my first cycle ive ever attempted.

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    i probably wont be fighting professionally for another year or so just so i can get some experience. but when i do i wanna be lean and cut. so probably light heavy.

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    If you want your 1st cycle to be successful read what the links I posted above and then this one as well. It has everything you are looking for or should be looking for.
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...o#.UNf-rr_hxv8

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    my body fat is probably shit atm so between 20 - 25%, forgot to add that, sorry

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    21 y.o and only 4 months back in the gym! Problems are in your future!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by azzdogg22 View Post
    i probably wont be fighting professionally for another year or so just so i can get some experience. but when i do i wanna be lean and cut. so probably light heavy.
    did you look at the pics of various bodyfat?

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    In that case from my own experience 205 is the wrong weight for you, try get down to 185 (middleweight)

    here is how you do it
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g#.UNgAEawwaSo

    forget steroids for the moment,

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