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    New from DFW, Tx

    Hello to all....
    I am actually been working out consistently for over a year. I went from 316lbs to 234lbs. I am 28/M and I did have my blood work done. All my lvls were GREAT. I was on low side of normal Test. I did go back for another full panel to find out why i was low normal Test. The second test showed i was below normal. Doctor put me on depo made by phyzir. I have been doing 100mg a week. My boss is a Champion body builder and has been training me to get my muscle mature for a cycle. I will be starting Monday 12/31/2012. I want other peoples input . Weekly dosage: 500mg Test, 400mg Deca , and also Nolva. Anyone have anything for me?

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    How long have you been on trt? You need to make sure your dr has you leveled out before considering a blast

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    i have been on test for a month

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix
    i have been on test for a month
    You need to wait till you have at least leveled out. My guess would be that your dr will run labs at 90 days to see we're your labs are

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    May i ask why do I have to wait to see if they are leveled out if i am looking to bulk up and do a cycle anyways?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix View Post
    May i ask why do I have to wait to see if they are leveled out if i am looking to bulk up and do a cycle anyways?
    Because most doctors will do follow up bloodwork to make sure they have you on the correct dose. So if u go on cycle it will screw up ur bloodwork.
    And i would drop the deca and replace the nolva with an ai when u do cycle
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1

    Because most doctors will do follow up bloodwork to make sure they have you on the correct dose. So if u go on cycle it will screw up ur bloodwork.
    And i would drop the deca and replace the nolva with an ai when u do cycle
    But what are your thoughts on Dallas???
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixxerboy1 View Post
    Because most doctors will do follow up bloodwork to make sure they have you on the correct dose. So if u go on cycle it will screw up ur bloodwork.
    And i would drop the deca and replace the nolva with an ai when u do cycle
    What would you honestly suggest? I want to bulk quick and fast. I was honestly thinking test, dec, tren , and dbol . but other people said for first cycle thats to much. I want the results and quickly. What should i use instead of nolva and when should i should use a estrogene blocker?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix View Post
    What would you honestly suggest? I want to bulk quick and fast. I was honestly thinking test, dec, tren, and dbol. but other people said for first cycle thats to much. I want the results and quickly. What should i use instead of nolva and when should i should use a estrogene blocker?

    Nothing worth having comes quickly with out hard work and time. You need to wait till the Dr. has your blood level stabilized where he wants it. What's a few weeks or months?

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    I understand everyone always says wait... I have waited long enough. PLease help me with my cycle request. nothing more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix View Post
    I understand everyone always says wait... I have waited long enough. PLease help me with my cycle request. nothing more.
    What happens when ur doctor cancels your trt and u cant get it again because ur inpatient.
    And everyone is right. Its way to much for a first cycle. Yiu have no idwa how u react to any of theae drugs and u eant to use a laundry list the first time. Also the faster u put it on the harder it is to keep. Bro ur not a kid do it right
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post

    But what are your thoughts on Dallas???
    Id rather lose a testical then move back there
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    I am and i dont see my doc till july thats when he wants my first test done. I understand.. i only get 400mg a month from my doctor in which i will get and 1600mg a month from another source

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    Then just stick with test only, get an ai instead of nolva
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    whats a good AI?

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    A-dex or aromasin . You cant get both from the ar-r banner
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    So why those over nolva?

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    would i need a pct is just doing test? if so what? is that a-dex this site here....htt p:// www. ar-r .co m/ancillari es/liq uidex-30ml-1mg-ml. html
    Last edited by Gnarchotix; 12-28-2012 at 05:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix View Post
    would i need a pct is just doing test? if so what? is that a-dex this site here....htt p:// www. ar-r.co m/ancillari es/liq uidex-30ml-1mg-ml. html
    Are you planning to stop TRT?

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    no i dont plan on stoppin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnarchotix View Post
    would i need a pct is just doing test? if so what? is that a-dex this site here....htt p:// www. ar-r.co m/ancillari es/liq uidex-30ml-1mg-ml. html
    yes thats the a-dex.
    if your on trt you just go back to trt and you dont use pct.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    okay just making sure...
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    ^^^, no there is no discussion of sources or asking for them, please edit your post
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    can an admin please make my account active? I am trying to PM a member

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    you cant pm until you have been here 30 days and have 50 post.
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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    oh okay thanks... so if i was do do 500mg test/ 300mg deca and that AI aromisan you suggested. Also with that A-dex how much do i use of that and when? With a proper diet and work out schedule. What do you think my results will be?
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    Bro there is nothing more dangerous than putting things into your body that you know nothing about.You told us your weight not your height or bf.You only been in the gym 1yr.This tells me you are not ready on any levels.I am not busting on you but things dont happen over night.You keep going the way your going and you will hurt your body.Do some reading and find out about wat you are putting into your body.Learn about Nova Clomid and wat AIs do.Read about pct and Gyno.Then you will have a good start.
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    i am 5 10 and i was around 33% BF i am now 23% BF. I used to workout all the time before i moved to Oregon. I let myself go while i was there. I was big hitter for high school baseball I was benching 375lbs and squatting 675lbs. this was 10 years ago

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    at 23% bf your are setting yourself up for more side effects.
    your boy isnt giving you good advice in many ways.
    i would stick with your trt dose until you get in better shape first and loose some more bf
    If people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong

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