New to the site... looking for a little insight

[jbenfield]

Hey guys I am new to this site and figured id see if anyone could give me some insight as to if I am doing the right things or not?

23 year old male

working out for a solid 2 years ( really bumped it up the last 5-6 months) lift 5 days a week 2 days cardio involved

app. 200lbs 5'10" 12% bf

currently on a test cyp 250 cycle (first time cycler), 1 ml shot the first week then 2 shots at 1 ml a week, next week starts the 4th week of a 10 week cycle, also just got in some liquidex and liquidclomid from ar-r... planned on starting the liquidex at 1ml a week just to kind of watch the estrogen levels, had no blood work done yet but if its recommended I will

diet isn't to bad, no calorie watching but eating smaller healthier based meals 5-6 times a day (2 being a 40 gram protein shake) taking a mulit and fish oil everyday..

not looking to bulk or cut to an extreme just would like to gain a little size and get more muscle tonnage.. any insight would be greatly appreciated?

[gixxerboy1]

Wasnt really a great idea to start this. Especially with no real diet, ho w do u expect to meet ur goals. I would honestly stop.
The ai is not to be yaken once a week if that's what u meant. I would probably start low at .20 eod

[OdinsOtherSon]

Wasnt really a great idea to start this. Especially with no real diet, ho w do u expect to meet ur goals. I would honestly stop.
The ai is not to be yaken once a week if that's what u meant. I would probably start low at .20 eod

^^ This. I agree gixx....not a great idea to start this.

[jbenfield]

yes I meant 1 ml a week... i have no sides as of now which is why I am not going to take it everyday I could break it up and take it 5 days a week like you said if that is better off? I know numerous guys who do not even take any AI and have had no problems? why is this such a bad idea? I have lifted for 2 years/ strongly for the last 6 months and I eat healthy just do not religiously watch the colories? I am not goin to be severly lean and ripped... I just want some size and more definition.... Instead of shutting me down immediately please explain why you say its such a bad idea.... Thanks

[Capebuffalo]

You have no idea what you are doing. You just jumped in and hope someone will help you? Stop now. Learn more.
Why do you need an ai?
Why do you need hcg?
Why is your pct weak?

[OdinsOtherSon]

This is a sticky in this forum...actually 3 posts above this one, at this point in time. Done any reading at all prior to kicking this "cycle" off? Since you just joined today, I'd venture to say no.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

And as gixxerboy1 said, it seems you're totally off on the correct use of your AI. PCT products appear insufficient, no mention of HCG either. If you don't know why we're "shutting you down," you've done zero research on this site...which in all honesty you need to be doing ASAP.

[OdinsOtherSon]

You have no idea what you are doing. You just jumped in and hope someone will help you? Stop now. Learn more.
Why do you need an ai?
Why do you need hcg?
Why is your pct weak?

Sorry Cape...you beat me to it...didn't mean to step on ya!

[jbenfield]

I have did my research trust me... I do not believe I need to go thru all of this.... Anyone else want to give positive insight? I was under the impression this was a good forum

[OdinsOtherSon]

I have did my research trust me... I do not believe I need to go thru all of this.... Anyone else want to give positive insight? I was under the impression this was a good forum

Go through what? We're trying to get you to MAN up and realize you may have made a bad choice, then MAN up and do some work for yourself to find out why. I assure you the help is here...just not via spoon feeding. If you have done research, its not showing my man.

[Capebuffalo]

Best of luck with your hard head.

[jbenfield]

So i am to young is what you are trying to say? I am almost 24 will be jan 31.. I do agree on the ai dosage but like I said before I know many that aren't on any at ALL.... Yes according to everything that i have read this is crazy but that's exactly why I ordered some and now have it in... I was asking is it better to take a low dosage eod or a single every week? as to the hcg that is going to come post cycle but I have a ways to go.... I do not know everything but I have researched a ton which is why I joined up hoping to get answers straight from experience....

[jbenfield]

I honestly do not know what the hell I was meaning there? "I do not need to go thru all of this" obviously didn't come out right... I do not want to be spoon feed either but tell me what I am doing wrong? or need as of now... is there a problem with not splitting up the ai and doing it once a week?

[OdinsOtherSon]

Ok. AI should be started at .20 or .25mg EOD. Your hcg needs to be used on cycle, not for PCT. You have clomid on hand? Need nolva as well. Check this out.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...cles-Look-here

YOU NEED BLOOD WORK TO GET A FULL PIC OF YOUR CURRENT STATUS!!!

We were hard on you because we wanted you to throw the brakes on a take a step back. Believe it or not, your health is our primary concern here. Hope this helps. We'll be here if you need us.

[jbenfield]

I am more than willing to learn... I do not appreciate when ppl do not look to contribute anything but more or less like to shut down the ones that are more ignorant to the matter that they are more experienced in

[Capebuffalo]

http://www.steroid.com/Arimidex.php

[Capebuffalo]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UNz5FCe9KSM

[OdinsOtherSon]

http://www.steroid.com/Arimidex.php

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...n#.UNz5FCe9KSM

Bingo...there ya go

[jbenfield]

Thanks.... I actually have looked that over before... I have read that hcg can be either during or post but i swore most did post (i could be wrong) is clomid and nolva not basically the same thing?

[Capebuffalo]

Wow look how easy this is

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...CYCLE-THERAPY)

[Capebuffalo]

Thanks.... I actually have looked that over before... I have read that hcg can be either during or post but i swore most did post (i could be wrong) is clomid and nolva not basically the same thing?

Never mind. Sorry.

[OdinsOtherSon]

Thanks.... I actually have looked that over before... I have read that hcg can be either during or post but i swore most did post (i could be wrong) is clomid and nolva not basically the same thing?

HCG should be used while on cycle as it can cause shutdown just as AAS can. Run it right up to 3-4 days before starting PCT. Nolva and Clomid are both serms, but act on estrogen receptors in different ways...hence more complete control of estrogen in PCT. Both compounds used in PCT are the standard protocol recommended here as is HCG being used on cycle as opposed to post cycle.

Since you are using Cyp, you will need to start your PCT protocols 18 days after your LAST pin of cyp.

[jbenfield]

I read the thread about the sust and dex...sorry the site is shutting my post down for some reason... his is no different from mine? why is mine so different? its shouldnt be... i just need to start up the AI which i will and where exactly is the HCG in his cycle or pct?

[jbenfield]

thanks for the info..... so you do recommend getting hcg asap? or let this cycle run out?

[OdinsOtherSon]

Lol...well, if you don't want your balls to possibly shrivel up and would like your PCT to go more smoothly, yeah...I'd use it. Spoon is going in the dishwasher for the night. READ!!

[Capebuffalo]

http://www.steroid.com/HCG.php