Cycle advise

[MAU5]

I've been thinking about a anadrol test cyp cycle for quite some time and after reading and posting I've become quite confused. I would like some direction and any feedback you may have to offer.

Potential cycle:
week 1-12 test cyp. 500mg
Week 1-4 anadrol 50mg
Week 1-12 arimidex .25ED depending if needed.

pct
clomid
Nolva

I have HCG and proviron on hand and I would like to incorporate both.

Thoughts??

[Turkish Juicer]

What are your stats and cycle history?

Arimidex should be administered from the first day of your cycle up until PCT, there is no such thing as ''if needed''.

You also won't need Proviron when you administer your AI as recommended above.

[Charger527]

As above but looks good pretty standard, i didnt think there was a problem with having the AI on hand and start using if estrogen related sides flare up (correct me if im wrong)( though i personally just run it throughout anyway though i only do burst cycles these days)

whats your pct plan? doseages etc?

[Alinjr]

What are your stats and cycle history?

Arimidex should be administered from the first day of your cycle up until PCT, there is no such thing as ''if needed''.

You also won't need Proviron when you administer your AI as recommended above.

^^^agreed. I would like to know your history cycle also.

[OdinsOtherSon]

As above but looks good pretty standard, i didnt think there was a problem with having the AI on hand and start using if estrogen related sides flare up (correct me if im wrong)( though i personally just run it throughout anyway though i only do burst cycles these days)

whats your pct plan? doseages etc?

Problem is, your E2 can be elevated with little to no sides physically manifesting themselves, which does not mean you would not be experiencing negative sides of elevated E2. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure IMO.

[Charger527]

Problem is, your E2 can be elevated with little to no sides physically manifesting themselves, which does not mean you would not be experiencing negative sides of elevated E2. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure IMO.

yes true 100% agree

[MAU5]

What are your stats and cycle history?

Arimidex should be administered from the first day of your cycle up until PCT, there is no such thing as ''if needed''.

You also won't need Proviron when you administer your AI as recommended above.

Stats:
32 yrs old
6'3"
200lbs
14%bf
Lifting for 3 years straight (inconcistently for 5 yrs previously)
Diet - 3500 cal-clean

Previous cycle experience:
Weeks 1-12 sust
Weeks 1-12 var 80mg

[MAU5]

As above but looks good pretty standard, i didnt think there was a problem with having the AI on hand and start using if estrogen related sides flare up (correct me if im wrong)( though i personally just run it throughout anyway though i only do burst cycles these days)

whats your pct plan? doseages etc?

Pct - 18 days after last injection
Nolva. 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

[MAU5]

I was also curious about body fat % pre cycle. Should it be on the lower side going into a cycle? I've read that if your body fat % is on the higher side that you run a greater risk of experiencing sides...

[ma_fighter]

I'm just curious as to why you wanna run Anadrol, sure gains will be quick and big, but not a whole lot of it will be muscles, and thus IMO useless, other then as an ego-boost. I'm not at all a fan of holding water.

I'd drop the Anadrol and do a 12 week, 500mg/week test cyp or enan cycle with 0.25 mg Arimidex EOD
250iu hCG 2x/week, last one done the week before PCT

As far as the Proviron go, it will allow for less testosterone to be bound by SHBG, and therefore increase the effectiveness of the test, but at what rate, or what other benefits you'd get by incorporating it, I really couldn't say.


But that's just my opinion.

/Maf

[ma_fighter]

I was also curious about body fat % pre cycle. Should it be on the lower side going into a cycle? I've read that if your body fat % is on the higher side that you run a greater risk of experiencing sides...

More fat = more conversion of test into estrogen
Also, gains will be obscured by a layer of fat, and you will not *look* as big, as well as you have less of a margin for overeating when bulking.

[Thicknick1]

You say you have a clean diet. Does that mean clean as in you still eat at fast food still once a week or a clean disciplined diet? Also what are you goals, do you just want to "get big" or do you want lean muscle mass you can maintain after your cycle? I have run Anadrol and I can tell you its almost all water weight. It will make you look "big" (in a water weight kinda way) but you will keep very little of it when you PCT. Im not saying dont do it as it does have its place but let us know what your end goal is we can point you in the right direction.

[MAU5]

You say you have a clean diet. Does that mean clean as in you still eat at fast food still once a week or a clean disciplined diet? Also what are you goals, do you just want to "get big" or do you want lean muscle mass you can maintain after your cycle? I have run Anadrol and I can tell you its almost all water weight. It will make you look "big" (in a water weight kinda way) but you will keep very little of it when you PCT. Im not saying dont do it as it does have its place but let us know what your end goal is we can point you in the right direction.

I have a clean disciplined diet, no fast food, I may indulge on my cheat day and have pizza every once in a while. I consume chicken, lots of salmon, ground lean turkey, lean steak, lots of Raw veg, yams/sweet potato, brown rice, quinoa, oats, cottage cheese, yogurt, avocado, nuts, hemp seed, flax seed, udos oil etc... On cheat days I don't worry too much about what I eat, I just ensure I don't over eat.

My goal is to pack on about 10+lbs or so of muscle. The leaner the better.

[MAU5]

Bump

[ma_fighter]

Then drop the Anadrol, and do your standard 500mg/wk test, 0.25mg Adex eod, 250iu hCG 2x week cycle.
Diet will determine if gains are lean or not
Anadrol will get you all wet and puffy looking

/Maf

[MAU5]

Then drop the Anadrol, and do your standard 500mg/wk test, 0.25mg Adex eod, 250iu hCG 2x week cycle.
Diet will determine if gains are lean or not
Anadrol will get you all wet and puffy looking

/Maf

What you are saying makes sense to me... I felt it was a good idea to jump start this cycle with a product such as drol especially since I will be pinning cyp.... Would you recommend dbol or var instead? Cash isn't a big concern...

[Turkish Juicer]

What you are saying makes sense to me... I felt it was a good idea to jump start this cycle with a product such as drol especially since I will be pinning cyp.... Would you recommend dbol or var instead? Cash isn't a big concern...

If you are determined to kick-start a long-ester Test cycle with an oral and if money isn't a concern as you put it, then Anavar is obviously the winner here for various reasons... Less hepatotoxicty is alone a very good reason to go with Anavar instead of Dbol.

[ma_fighter]

Nah, IMO orals are not really worth it.

If you really want a kickstart you could run prop alongside the cyp for the first couple of weeks, a bit more the first week, then less for another two, but not much will be needed.
20 days into a cyp alone cycle, your bloodlevels should already be at ~90% of peak.

I havent done this myself, so Im not talking out of experience, but the gains will be quicker then with cyp alone, and dryer and cleaner then with dbol or adrol, which to me is a win/win scenario.

Anavar or T-bol if you really want an oral