EQ help!!!!!?

**bevis7438** · 12-30-2012, 09:23 PM

Need help with EQ, clomid, and conditioning.
I am in the military and I haven't used anything since I joined six years ago. I have done several cycles successfully but I'm looking to use EQ for conditioning purposes. Never used EQ and I understand that it can increase strength and red blood cell count wich will help with oxygen delivery (Running). I don't want to go with a heavy androgenic so would it be wise if I use EQ to take clomid with it? Any Suggestions? Thanks.

**Ashop** · 12-30-2012, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by bevis7438

Need help with EQ, clomid, and conditioning.
I am in the military and I haven't used anything since I joined six years ago. I have done several cycles successfully but I'm looking to use EQ for conditioning purposes. Never used EQ and I understand that it can increase strength and red blood cell count wich will help with oxygen delivery (Running). I don't want to go with a heavy androgenic so would it be wise if I use EQ to take clomid with it? Any Suggestions? Thanks.

Whats your stats?? You know age,weight,height etc...?

**austinite** · 12-30-2012, 09:36 PM

What can EQ do for you that another compound won't do better? EQ is the most worthless compound known to man.

Post your stats and your goals and see if you get better recommendations.

**MickeyKnox** · 12-30-2012, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

What can EQ do for you that another compound won't do better? EQ is the most worthless compound known to man.

Post your stats and your goals and see if you get better recommendations.

lol!

**austinite** · 12-30-2012, 09:44 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

lol!

lmao. I knew you would hear that comment from a mile away!

**MickeyKnox** · 12-30-2012, 09:47 PM

My phone goes off anytime someone mentions EQ.

**bevis7438** · 01-01-2013, 04:56 PM

Im 29, 5'8, 210. Im pretty advanced when it comes to lifting and conditioning. I know how to manipulate my body lean out when i need to ect. The main reason Im looking at EQ is that I dont want the major up and down that comes with the stronger androgenics. So my question is , would i see a conditioning benefit from EQ? And should I run clomid with it?

**ecruz** · 01-01-2013, 07:01 PM

There are plenty of better compounds available. if your looking to keep a low profile run a light dose of test. you will waste your time and money running EQ by its self and why the clomid?

**bevis7438** · 01-01-2013, 09:15 PM

The clomid can offset the negative effects of the mild androgenic effect of the EQ.

**breakbones** · 01-01-2013, 11:53 PM

I'm about to add EQ to my cycle! Lets see what it does when stacked with 1000mg of Test e, 650 of Deca , and 100mg of dbol a day.

**ecruz** · 01-02-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by bevis7438

The clomid can offset the negative effects of the mild androgenic effect of the EQ.

this is true however the truly mild "androgenic effect" that eq possesses on its own should not be of much concern, now thats assuming that your running a typical 400mg dose but honestly eq on its own is really not such a good idea

**kozarCB** · 01-02-2013, 02:58 PM

One of my gym buddies will run EQ on a test only cycle, and does it at a 1:1 ratio. So if you're doing 500mg Test, do 500mg EQ. I have no personal experience with it, but he seems to be a big fan.

**gixxerboy1** · 01-02-2013, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by breakbones

I'm about to add EQ to my cycle! Lets see what it does when stacked with 1000mg of Test e, 650 of Deca, and 100mg of dbol a day.

Itcwill increase ur blood pressure and rbc and take up space in the needle. That's it

**MickeyKnox** · 01-02-2013, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by breakbones

I'm about to add EQ to my cycle! Lets see what it does when stacked with 1000mg of Test e, 650 of Deca , and 100mg of dbol a day.

Wow, thats a ton of Dbol ! My liver is killing me just thinking about it. Have you ran that before? Is it under dosed?

**OnTheSauce** · 01-02-2013, 09:43 PM

Big cycle.

**breakbones** · 01-07-2013, 01:00 AM

It's not a tone compared to what many others run.
Plus, if you take proper maintenance for your liver then you wouldn't be having issues.
Liver protected
Doc Checks every 2months.
Dbol is NOT under-dosed
Yes, I ran it many times

**Metalject** · 01-07-2013, 01:10 AM

EQ gets a lot of bad press on here but that's OK. Everyone has what they like and don't. Is it the greatest steroid ever? No, not at all but it's not what I'd call worthless either...and I'd also note the fear of it increasing red blood cells too much is a little overblown. A dose of 200-400mg per week should not produce a significant increase in red blood cell count above most other steroids . Doses above 600mg/wk for prolonged periods of time could increase the risk.

As for the steroid's ability...it was the first steroid I ever used. It was EQ only at 400mg/wk. I was 20yrs old. It didn't make a dramatic difference but strength and endurance increases were definitely noticeable. Since that time, I've enjoyed EQ as part of many cutting cycles, normally the front end of a plan to help preserve tissue and strength during the diet.

As for Clomid with your EQ, this won't do much for keeping your test levels at a decent range...if you run EQ without test your test levels will fall significantly. A low dose of test, say TRT level dosing, along with your EQ could provide you with what you're looking for. Another option might be Anavar instead of EQ...I'd say you'd probably be happier with the results from that rather than EQ but the EQ can work.

**valkyrie** · 01-07-2013, 04:18 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

What can EQ do for you that another compound won't do better? EQ is the most worthless compound known to man.

Post your stats and your goals and see if you get better recommendations.

Lol.

But seriously. He does state his goal. He wants better conditioning. EQ is not worthless. EQ is mild. EQ can be very helpful in a stack, for certain that things, including conditioning which OP says he is interested in improving. It shouldn't be done alone it should be done in conjunction with testosterone .

EQ is one substance that some people just do not respond to. Maybe you are one of those people and that is what your take on it is so negative. For many people if does have a very nice and noticeable (though relatively mild) effect.

One of my good Bros is a national level strongman competitor. Strongest man in our state. He loves to cruise on test and EQ. We are all different there is no reason OP shouldn't give a nice mild test/EQ stack a try especially if improved conditioning is a major goal for him.

**valkyrie** · 01-07-2013, 04:22 AM

To avoid ups and downs with testosterone schedule your pins to keep blood levels as stable as possible. For example pin longernesthers E3D rather than 2x per week. This will avoid many mood related high/low side effects.