test dosage while cutting?

[yamahaguitarguy]

going to run test while I cut to avoid strength loss. Do you think 250mg a week would be high enough dose to not lose any strength on a 3-4 month cut?

[Soar]

If you're going to run the test I would stick to 500/week but 250/week should be enough to stop most of the catabolic effect and at least slow the muscle waste. The cut will be dependent on your diet, that's probably a better place to start. If you do it right you won't need any test at all.

[yamahaguitarguy]

no matter how strict my diet is I would lose strength for sure after 3-4 months. I plan on having a good calorie deficit diet and then start doing cardio after the first month

[Bigherm21]

Yeah bro some compounds aid in bulking or cutting but if you're serious about one or the other it's your diet. 250/week is a pretty low dose. What are you trying to accomplish here and why?

[yamahaguitarguy]

trying to go from mid to high teen bf level to around 10 percent.

[Lunk1]

Run 400-500 mg a week and do not allow more than a 500 cal deficit. 200-300 cals and the addition of test will avoid nearly any muscle wasting during a calorie deficit cut!

[yamahaguitarguy]

so you think I would need to go as high as 400mg? I want to avoid going to high because after my first cycle of test at 500mg/week I got quite a bit of acne so I would like to avoid going too high to avoid acne.

[Soar]

Did you run your last cycle with a AI?

[Lunk1]

so you think I would need to go as high as 400mg? I want to avoid going to high because after my first cycle of test at 500mg/week I got quite a bit of acne so I would like to avoid going too high to avoid acne.

Acne would be caused bu hormone fluctuation not the test dose. If you are using an AI and kepping your test and E2 level then acne shouldn't be a huge issue. The addition of an AI helps me avoid acne until my PCT were I'm fluctuating again!

[yamahaguitarguy]

it was my first cycle so I made a few mistakes. I started my cycle without an AI and once the test kicked in I got a lot of acne. I started letrozole about halfway through the cycle and the acne slowed down. This time around I will start my ai from the very beginning

[Bio-Active]

it was my first cycle so I made a few mistakes. I started my cycle without an AI and once the test kicked in I got a lot of acne. I started letrozole about halfway through the cycle and the acne slowed down. This time around I will start my ai from the very beginning

Did the acne start during your cycle or after? What PCT did you run?

[yamahaguitarguy]

started about halfway through right when it was peaking, I blasted hcg for 4 weeks at 500iu and that also caused a lot of acne. My pct was nolvadex 40/40/20/20

[Bio-Active]

started about halfway through right when it was peaking, I blasted hcg for 4 weeks at 500iu and that also caused a lot of acne. My pct was nolvadex 40/40/20/20

Sounds like elevated E. What is your PCT plan for this cycle?

[t-dogg]

My last cycle i ran for 16wks at 500mgs of sust. I was cutting basically for a tournament.

[yamahaguitarguy]

that was the conclusion I came to as well jim. Since this cycle isn't a bulking cycle I am not too concerned about losing anything coming off so I was thinking of skipping the hcg because I feel it wouldn't be as needed as a bulking cycle and I want to avoid some of the acne I got from it. My pct will probably just be the standard nolvadex like I previously used.

[Bio-Active]

You need hcg to maintain testicular function. I would never run a cycle with out it. You need to run an AI on cycle and you should add clomid to your pct.

[yamahaguitarguy]

for 250mg of test? No offence but I think you may be going a little over kill. No way am I taking hcg all through the cycle that's an extra like 300 dollars.

[Lunk1]

Add Clomid for sure and HCG is a matter of choice. Will it help with recovery? Yes! Is it an absolute nessecity? NO! Def. run the AI and acne should not be an issue!

[yamahaguitarguy]

I agree that hcg will help but imo I just don't feel its necessary for a low dose cutting cycle but I still have time to make that choice.

[Bio-Active]

I agree that hcg will help but imo I just don't feel its necessary for a low dose cutting cycle but I still have time to make that choice.

250 MG of test will shut down your natty test production just as hard as 500 mg. Its your body

[Lunk1]

250 MG of test will shut down your natty test production just as hard as 500 mg. Its your body

This is true^^^^.

[yamahaguitarguy]

last time I blasted hcg at 500iu I got a lot of acne. If I were to take it this cycle what dose should I go with?

[Bio-Active]

last time I blasted hcg at 500iu I got a lot of acne. If I were to take it this cycle what dose should I go with?

250 iu 2 x e/w run Adex .25 eod

[t-dogg]

for 250mg of test? No offence but I think you may be going a little over kill. No way am I taking hcg all through the cycle that's an extra like 300 dollars.

The important thing is it cuts time off of recover and keeping gains. 250mgs can and will shut you down.

[yamahaguitarguy]

alright I will probably go with that. 500iu was just way too much for me.

[Bio-Active]

alright I will probably go with that. 500iu was just way too much for me.

Good choice. You can easily control the sides by controlling your E with the AI

[yamahaguitarguy]

yeah I really messed up not taking the ai from the very start, now I know better.

[t-dogg]

yeah I really messed up not taking the ai from the very start, now I know better.

First cycle i ever ran i did with no ai....

Young and dumb. Thing is i knew better...