Hey guys
If I am on my first cycle is it ok to take V or Cialis?
Cheers
Hey guys
If I am on my first cycle is it ok to take V or Cialis?
Cheers
Yes it's OK. I have never heard of anyone having any negative sides from it. You can find liquid V or C in the banner at the top right, AR-R I have not used it yet but everyone who does swears it's good. FYI people who use the liquid C say it also helps lower blood pressure same as the RX
Never had any probs using it. The prob is, if you abuse AAS you may find yourself reliant on V or C to maintain wood. Just food for thought considering you are just starting. And I say this from personal experience.
Yikes. What did u do to abuse them?
My neighbor did a cutting cycle and used ECA stack(i think it was propionate+eca and something more maybe),same day he took 2 pills of viagra as well..donno if it was connected but he ended up in a hospitalwith a bit of a heart problems..
Duhh, ECA + 2 Viagra? STUPID... Even taking 2 V is not a good idea.
Cialis is far better for your goals. Much longer half-life.
Last edited by kelkel; 01-01-2013 at 11:04 AM.
Cialis is the way to go, always.
Well bad news, both V and C stopped working for meWTF
Well remember they work on blood flow. Cialis has many other healthy attributes as well and is great in a daily protocol. It does not give you instant erections as it is not an aphrodisiac. Do some research on PT-141 which is a peptide and actually is an aphrodisiac. It works neurologically.
My buddy makes his own d Bol caps and adds Viagra or cialis to it.... He claims it makes it work better.... I think the only reason why his d's are sooo good is because there overdosed but who knows.... They are great tho
Originally Posted by kelkel
V just worked 2 months for me and then not working anymore. So disappointed, used cialis as alternate, no results at all.Originally Posted by human project
Overdose: is it ok to take it? As it is not allowed more then 100mg in 24 hrs.
Examine your priorities then. Blood work and see exactly what's going on as many things can cause ED. High estrogen being one of them. Or come off, run your pct and see how your libido recovers. Your health is more important than a little bit of LBM from a cycle, don't you think? If not and you just want a band aid have your doc write you a script for Tri-Mix. You inject it directly into your johnson and it will stand up to be counted. Google it.
I sure hope Cialis and Test is ok. If not, I'm in bid trouble.
I accidentally drank almost an entire bottle of research grade Viagra on me and my current girlfriends first date... Long story short she was giving me head do I reached in the center council and took out my bottle and tried to quickly dump a little in my mouth... Well accidentally dumped it all in my mouth "I was wasted of coarse" long story short she got the hardest d of her life and I actually saw the craziest tracers and vision color change then I've ever seen on any drug.... Ahhhh.... Back to our first date lolOriginally Posted by Aliusman
Lucky you didn't get a priapism! LolOriginally Posted by human project
I literally banged for like 7hrs.... Best first date of my life... Funny thing is we didnt have out first kiss until our third date... Even funnier then that.... Or really just more ironic is she's prego now
I've been there for an 8hr marathon. No Cialis but certainly other products that kept me going, and going, and going, and going.....lolOriginally Posted by human project
I am using doctors prescribed V and cialis, getting it from a legal pharmacy with legal prescription, V worked for me for 2 months like crazy, but now it's dead to me so went to doctors again he prescribed cialis which I used last night but results Zero (36 hrs my a s s), I was using 100mg V and 20mg cialis which is the highest dose![]()
Never heard of tri-maxOriginally Posted by kelkel
Wow.... 100mg of v is a lot more the. 20mg of cialis.... Plus if I'm not mistaken cialis is a daily drug that builds up in your system over a period of a couple weeks... On day shouldent make much of a difference... Try it for a week or 2 before u know it don't work..Originally Posted by Aliusman
I read the first 10 or 15 posts and I thought this might answer some questions.
A tolerance can be developed to PDE-I's so try taking a short break if they are no longer working for u. This is especially so with Cialis bc of its long half life.
If this doesn't work and you no longer benefit from Cialis, Viagra, or Levitra (and you've given the brand version a try as well - as some ppl claim they are more effective), there are still options out there.
If you are still able to achieve spontaneous erections in the middle of the night, upon awakening, or whenever there is a chance that your problem is psychogenic. If not, there are medications that will produce erections, even in the absence of desire or sexual simulation such as Caverject and Edex which are injected into the base of the penis by the patient prior to intercourse and Muse which its inserted into the urethra. All 3 are comprised of the same medication, alprostadil, and success rates are high.
Even if that doesn't work there are FDA approved vacuum assisted devices, implantable pumps, and implantable flexible rods depending on your needs and preferences. If anyone would like to hear more, just say so and I can post additional info.
No 100mg V is equivalent to 20mg cialisOriginally Posted by human project
That's really amazing post, I never heard about 2 weeks thing before but it's a long lasting pill up to 36 hrs, I took it the night before and it didn't work, I had an argument before sex with my partner that night so I thought it might be because of that cuz my mind wasn't fully there but actually it wasn't like that cuz to test it same night I tried this to someone else (just for testing purposes please don't take me wrong here, I got frustrated and wanted to know if it is mental or physical). DID NOT WORK,Originally Posted by AnabolicDoc
last night while sleeping, it was hard like almost whole night ( when sleeping) doesn't make sense to me.
I might try it again tonight and see what happens.
Please bro post more info about injections and devices
Cheers
My doctor hasn't prescribed levitra to me yet
Please tell me where you learned this; I have done a lot of research on PDE5-I's, and much on Tadalafil and never seen discovered this in any study.
PDE5-I's were developed initially as a cardiovascular drug to be used for very very long duration's and it was only discovered as an NO2 promoter that it had a decent impact on erection quality in men. Was used off label for years till FDA approved for ED.
Know, of the 3 class of PDE5-I's Levetra is the strongest with a 6 hour half life. Next comes Viagra with a 4 hour half life. Cialis has a 16 hour half life but is the weakest of the three.
Don't compare doses of the 3 and they are different.
To put it into perspective; the recommended daily dose of Cialis for lowering BP is 40 mg daily. For ED the recommended daily dose is 5 mg or 20 mg for a single event...you figure it out how much you can take safely
You can always add in an alpha blocker like Doxazosin 1mg daily to enhance the effect of a PDE5-I. The AB relaxes the smooth muscle tissue allowing for greater blood flow to enter the tissues...your penis is made up of almost all smooth muscle tissue.
I do both daily and my EQ is amazing not withstanding superior vascularity and maddening pumps!
I get my Tadalafil from an over seas pharmacy and it works just like it's supposed and it's cheap to boot.
What when your body develop a tolerance for V, in my case, V stopped working after 2 months, used cialis as well, no results. I was thinking to use 150mg of V, is it safe? Nothing happens when I use 100mg, I feel nothing, same with cialis ,Originally Posted by gdevine
I use trimix from time to time and it's 98% effective in men.
It's simple, draw up the drug in a slin pin and use an injection pen.
You put the pen at about the 1 o'clock position on your penis and push the button.
It injects the trimix in less than a second and there is not pain whatsoever...and I mean it, no pain at all as the corpus cavernosum has few nerve endings.
Five minutes later and you will have an erection that will rival a porn start and last up to 90 minutes depending upon dose.
I've had my wife tap out a few times and it's probably the best cure for ED then any PDE5I...it's a game changer.
BTW, ever wonder how porn stars can keep it up for so long...yea...trimix![]()
Try adding 2 mg of Doxazosin to your PDE5I, my Doc now does it now for some of his patients who don't respond well to PDE5I's and so do some other Docs that I know...it enhances the effect.
Make sure your adding L-Arginine and L-Cituline daily as well; both enhance NO2 productions as does the PDE5I.
BTW, I still seriously question the idea that the body builds a tolerance to a PDE5I; I've never seen that stated in any study I've read and Tadalafil is FDA approved for daily use, if there were tolerance issues the drug insert would state it and it doesn't.
Last edited by steroid.com 1; 01-02-2013 at 11:19 PM.
Have you used V, If V works for you then tri mix should but the problem is V doesn't work me anymore nether of cialis so I m not sure if tri mix will work or notOriginally Posted by gdevine
What are these broOriginally Posted by gdevine
Do some research on Trimix; it's effective 98% of the time in all men.
The 2% of men where it's not effective have serious non repairable penis blood flow problems.
Be it known, PDE5I's are not effective in 45% of men who use it...plus you need a good libido to make it work as well.
With trimix you could stare at a wall for 90 minutes and have a huge erections thus the libido doesn't come into play.
YouTube has some good videos on tirmix...do some research.
Try adding 2 mg of Doxazosin to your PDE5I,
Doxazosin is an alpha blocker and relaxes the smooth muscle tissue of which makes up 90% of you penis.
Make sure your adding L-Arginine and L-Cituline daily as well; both enhance NO2 productions as does the PDE5I.
Amino acids.
Thanks bro it seems like the legal drug, is it possible to get tri mix and dox without prescription?Originally Posted by gdevine
Hello gdevine,
I think you have posted some really good info. I don't know of nor have I ever looked for any studies that show that one can build a tolerance to PDE5-I's. And yes there is a cialiis dose approved for daily use.
What I do know is that many patients have told me that whatever PDE5-I (Viagra, Levitra/Staxyn, Cialis) they were using has progressively stopped working for them. This was something that many of my colleagues saw in their patients as well.
Regarding cialis daily, I have not encountered many patients that are happy with the long term results of this medication regarding the treatment of their ED. My personal primary care doc has about 10,000 patients (he's an internist) and he doesn't have a single patient on cialis daily. There is a pair of doctors (that helped train me) with a large 10,000+ general practice patient base and they have less than a handful of patients satisfied with cialis daily. Lastly, I have a urologist friend who had stockpiles of cialis daily bc he had so few patients on it.
I'm just sharing the experiences that some of my colleagues and I have had with these meds. That's not to say that they are not great meds that definitely have their place in treating ED.
Last edited by AnabolicDoc; 01-03-2013 at 05:03 AM.
I also meant to say thank you to kelkel and aliusman for your nice words.
Try adding 2 mg of Doxazosin to any of the PDE5i's; as noted, it will amplify the effect by relaxing the soft muscle tissues in the corpus cavernosum thus allowing the PDE5I to be much more effective in getting good EQ.
Remember, Cialis is the weakest of the 3 classes of PDE5I's so dose accordingly.
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