Prohormone use.

[HunterCureton]

I am in my 3rd day of hdrol.
And it seems my back pumps are increasing.

Can I use whey protein ? It contains crystalline taurine.
And also I would really appreciate a workout plan suited for me.

I max bench at 245. This is my first cycle.
Should I take a day rest per week of working out?
I need a proper workout plan to comparing to mine on hdrol.

[MuscleInk]

I am in my 3rd day of hdrol.
And it seems my back pumps are increasing.

Can I use whey protein ? It contains crystalline taurine.
And also I would really appreciate a workout plan suited for me.

I max bench at 245. This is my first cycle.
Should I take a day rest per week of working out?
I need a proper workout plan to comparing to mine on hdrol.

Seriously!?! You are taking a PH and don't know how to train properly!?!

The advice you get isn't going to be what you want to hear.

Would you jump in an ocean not knowing how to swim hoping someone could teach you before you drowned? What you're doing makes no sense and is ridiculous.

[HunterCureton]

Idk man. I've been working myass off. Before school. During school gym and in workout class and after school.
I would just like to know if I'm pushing hard enough

[Atomini]

WHOAAAAA!!!

You started taking a Prohormone (which, by the way, is many times worse for your body and ESPECIALLY YOUR LIVER than straight anabolic steroids are) and you haven't even started a proper training plan??? You're also asking us if you can use whey protein while on a PH cycle!? These are questions you should be able to answer yourself, and if you have to come to use to ask them, it is a very strong indication you are lost, and you absolutely should not be doing what you are currently doing.

Here's my advice: stop the prohormones immediately. Don't even consider their use until you have a solid training routine and diet down.

You are also 18 years old. You have no place doing anabolic steroids or especially prohormones. At your age, you have an extremely high chance of damaging yourself permanently with your use. At your age you should have no problems at all putting on mass naturally just through proper nutrition and training.

[HunterCureton]

My diets good.
The whey protein was pointed towards the cryataline taurine. I didn't know if it would be the same as taurine for back pumps.

[HunterCureton]

Thanks anyways. And for the advice.

[fit2bOld]

You should not be taking prohormones, your setting yourself up for a big disaster, prohormone are worse than real AAS on your liver and developing endocrine system.
Please stop and check out our workout and diet forums.

[HunterCureton]

I'll take. Look at your forums.

I know hdrol is bad on the liver. I preloaded on cycle assist for 2 weeks Nd am continuing to use it. Along with b complex and like 11 other vitamins. Also got some pct with estrogen blockers too.

[songdog]

Bro the proper thing to do was knowing wat you are doing before you start.The best thing for you would be to stop.Learn how to train build a base.And in a few years you will be ready.You did everything in reverse.Not good Bro.

[Atomini]

I'll take. Look at your forums.

I know hdrol is bad on the liver. I preloaded on cycle assist for 2 weeks Nd am continuing to use it. Along with b complex and like 11 other vitamins. Also got some pct with estrogen blockers too.

Cycle assist won't do jack shit when it comes to this stuff. You need something like UDCA/TUDCA. You really don't realize how horrible prohormones are on your liver. But then again at your age, you're invincible, right?

Wrong.

Prohormones are death to your body, guaranteed high amounts of hepatoxicity. You're better off doing straight steroids than prohormones, as they are the lesser of two evils at your age... but neither is safe at your age. Prohormones are basically half-completed chemical structure (OR an anabolic steroid precursor) of various anabolic steroids. Prohormones force your liver to complete the chemical structure of the steroid that you're taking (or through several biochemical steps, convert the precursor into the target anabolic steroid), and what this results in is a TON of stress on the liver and your liver values AND LDL (bad) cholesterol will skyrocket far higher than any oral steroid would do. The other issue with prohormones is: there is no way of knowing EXACTLY what the precursor will turn into. 50% of it may turn into ESTROGEN for all you know! Is that what you want? You're better off injecting/ingesting straight hormones into your body than do the prohormone junk.

But what you need to do is put everything down and get back to the basics: proper training and proper nutrition!

[FRDave]

My buddy just finished a hydrol cycle (75mg per day for 6 weeks straight) and got blood work the day after but before starting his PCT and his HDL dropped from 76 to 22 and his liver enzymes are through the rough. Dr emailed today requesting additional blood work and an ultrasound on his liver (not aware of prohormone use). This is all while drinking a gallon of water a day and taking AI Sports life support (pre-loaded 2 weeks prior and taking all through PCT).

So ya, like mentioned by others, super hard on your liver regardless of your diet/life support and he got little gains as far as strength goes. Not worth it in my opinion, especially since he paid about $300 to do the cycle correctly.

Dave

[Atomini]

Want a cancerous liver cyst? Just do some prohormones. Guaranteed fast track to the ER and then the funeral home.

[MuscleInk]

My buddy just finished a hydrol cycle (75mg per day for 6 weeks straight) and got blood work the day after but before starting his PCT and his HDL dropped from 76 to 22 and his liver enzymes are through the rough. Dr emailed today requesting additional blood work and an ultrasound on his liver (not aware of prohormone use). This is all while drinking a gallon of water a day and taking AI Sports life support (pre-loaded 2 weeks prior and taking all through PCT).

So ya, like mentioned by others, super hard on your liver regardless of your diet/life support and he got little gains as far as strength goes. Not worth it in my opinion, especially since he paid about $300 to do the cycle correctly.

Dave

Dave & Atomini,

Great posts. I'm still shaking my head at this. I know OP isn't trying to harm himself but I'll never understand why people start taking products that can do significant harm and have little education on the risks. Creating significant liver issues and setting himself up for sexual dysfunction in the near future are not bright ideas.

[Atomini]

HunterCureton, please see this thread here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...g-and-Steroids

[Fllifter]

Huntercurrton, I recommend you listen to atomini and muscleink, they are some of the most knowledgeable members on this board. Drop the PH and train natty until your at least 25. Good luck.

[Atomini]

HunterCureton, I highly advise that you also do some in-depth reading into this thread as well: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...r-the-young***