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    Clen?

    When bulking is it a good idea to add clen to a cycle. Or include clen possibly into pct.

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    Frankly, it is never a good idea to add Clen to a cycle from a health-conscious perspective. This is largely due to the fact that both AAS and Clen increase your BP, this can easily lead to complications.

    Most Clen users include it into PCT, knowing that Clen has some anabolic qualities since it spares protein, but these are almost always cutting cycles where juicers cut throughout their cycles and want to preserve the lean mass as much as possible by also adding Clen during PCT.

    Frankly, I wouldn't mess with Clen while cycling AAS. I don't ever mess with Clen anyway, but that's me.

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    Thanks for the advice. I was reading that it does increase bp. Looking for additional input. Will stay away from clen while on cycle.
    Last edited by cgozz; 01-04-2013 at 10:04 AM.

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    ^^^ Increased BP while one Clen is not the only issue, actually.

    A portion of people on Clen get agitated/frustrated very easily, which is again mostly due to the increased BP, it is a big downside of this compound that can easily screw up your inter-personal relations if you don't quite know how to handle yourself in certain situations.

    Insonmia and lack of appetite are other reported issues with Clen. Why would I use an appetite suppressant during or post bulk-cycle at any rate...

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    Trying to find ways to keep body fat down. I eat very clean. Eating about 4000 cals. a day. Body fat is good now but every little bit helps.

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    The best and healthiest way to keep your BF% down is to go through several cardio sessions EW, brother.

    1. Do cardio.

    2. Cycle carbs.

    3. Increase daily fiber and water intake.

    4. Caffeine pills dosed at 200-400mg before workout sessions will help without sides.

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    I do cardio but 3 to 4 days a week. I will up it. I dink about 1.5 to 2 gal. Of water a day. I will start the caffeine for sure. Thanks!

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    I do cardio 5-6 times a week at moderate paces (130-135bpm), will switch back and forth between elliptical and treadmill to keep it a bit more exciting. I will do it after a 2 hr leg workout, I don't care if people disagree with it, it helps with regeneration and makes me feel good. It is great for your heart and will keep the fat at bay even during bulking phase...

    Don't underestimate the fat-burning qualities of water-soluble fiber; since fiber is what you cannot digest, your digestive system generates a whole a lot of effort to break-down fiber, which inevitable leads to the formation of a thermic-effect. Your body starts burning more fat as this happens, this is precisely why people with high daily fiber intake are also inclined to have a higher metabolic rate.

    I urge you to get into carb-management, aka carb-cycling if you haven't done it so far, you would be surprised by results...

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    Once again will do. I have read up in carb cycling and I am familiar with it. Never used always afraid
    It will interfere with gains. I will up fiber intake. I take in about 28g a day. Thanks for all the advice bro. I get caught up in bulking heavy duty, I get focused and mind set in. Sometimes hard for me to change routine. I will start carb cycling and add more fiber and cardio.

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    Don't worry about carb cycling interfering with gains, as long as we are talking about gaining lean muscle mass here.

    When you consume as much carbs on your ''off'' day as you do on your leg day per se, beware that this will lead to maintenance of BF% if not help increase it, as opposed to magically building lean tissue.

    This is the philosophy behind carb cycling and frankly, it is the only model that works for the majority when it comes to prioritizing lean gains: you can't always go through a diet phase where daily carb intake is high everyday of the year and expect not to get fat, unless you have an outrageously fast metabolic rate that consumes the glucose and attacks muscle mass...

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