34 male needs advice on first injection ever to get levels around 1200.. or maybe les

[pokermonster29]

Hey I had a blood test done a few months ago and came back my T levels at 270.
The doctor reccommended that I get my levels up to around 500 600.

IN a previous post on here the mod/ or knowledge able source reccommended to get around 1200.

So i'm very excited that I ordered online from a good source and got my T Cypionate today.

So do you guys think I should get my levels around 1200 then as recommended before by expert on this forum?
or 500 like doctor said which I dont think he knew much about this stuff.. surely not as much as a mod or expert on here would.

How many mgg's in syringe before I have a friend who's nurse help me inject first few times til I learn to do it myself.

Also I have a parabody G4 workout system in garage / u know a pulley system good one/ I plan on lifting weights about every 36 hours since my muscles will recover now in half the time??? or would I have to up my levels much more to get that effect?

I would like some nice muscle tone and to look pretty damn built so dont want to take as much as they would but maybe around 2000 levels in my body to get there or 5000?

Also is there truth of fat buildup around veins in heart among people taking lower doses than serious bodybuilders?
Also is there truth that even for bodybuilders that fat is building up around heart somehow due to steroid use?
I saw that on Abc show about how steroids were "overhyped" by public and was great show.

[dan991]

Slow down slow down slow down....

First... what dose did your doc recommend? Before you know what "will get you around 1200" you need to know what your current dose is, and then do additional blood work to know where you are at. There is no "take this and you will get to 1200 dose" recommendation.

Then, on the work out stuff- find a routine (search the forums) that you want to try. Again- "36 hours" is not some magic number. Also look at your diet because that is going to have more of an effect than working out in itself. Yes, you need to work out but don't think that just because you stick a syringe in your ass that you're gonna be some IFBB pro body builder.

Do some research- this entire forum is a "library" of good information. Look at various forums. Look at work out routines, EATING/DIET correctly, and then do blood work to tweak in your T levels. Don't guess because that can become counter productive really quick. Also- did your doc give you the secondary prescriptions such as Arimidex to go with your T Cyp?

[fit2bOld]

Really? Just way to much wrong with whole request. Average TRT dose is generally <200 mg a week. I can't recommend you go injecting test Willie-nillie cause you want a higher test level. From your question it appears you know absolutely nothing about AAS or TRT to even attempt to self medicate. This can lead to increased estrogen erectile dysfunction high blood pressure, cholesterol, red blood cell count.
Don't play doctor your going to hurt yourself.

Head to the TRT section and learn what true replacement is all about.

[pokermonster29]

Slow down slow down slow down....

First... what dose did your doc recommend? Before you know what "will get you around 1200" you need to know what your current dose is, and then do additional blood work to know where you are at. There is no "take this and you will get to 1200 dose" recommendation.

Then, on the work out stuff- find a routine (search the forums) that you want to try. Again- "36 hours" is not some magic number. Also look at your diet because that is going to have more of an effect than working out in itself. Yes, you need to work out but don't think that just because you stick a syringe in your ass that you're gonna be some IFBB pro body builder.

Do some research- this entire forum is a "library" of good information. Look at various forums. Look at work out routines, EATING/DIET correctly, and then do blood work to tweak in your T levels. Don't guess because that can become counter productive really quick. Also- did your doc give you the secondary prescriptions such as Arimidex to go with your T Cyp?

My doctor scribed me Androgel which cost 400 a month at Wal Mart pharm so I said heck with that and went online and ordered the T Cyp without a scrip.
So my levels are at 270 mg when they did blood work on me few months back. So maybe if I take around 200mg a week and then get more blood work done next week? that I can start monitoring where i'm at? that sound good? thanks

[pokermonster29]

Really? Just way to much wrong with whole request. Average TRT dose is generally <200 mg a week. I can't recommend you go injecting test Willie-nillie cause you want a higher test level. From your question it appears you know absolutely nothing about AAS or TRT to even attempt to self medicate. This can lead to increased estrogen erectile dysfunction high blood pressure, cholesterol, red blood cell count.
Don't play doctor your going to hurt yourself.

Head to the TRT section and learn what true replacement is all about.

Ok say maybe start at 200mg's a week which I said I was having a nurse that i'm friends with do the injection for me for awhile til I learn enough to do it myself though frankly I Know its not rocket science to do that.
How often should I get blood tests to monitor my T levels? How much they cost to do? Is there an online kit to do this?

[dan991]

My doctor scribed me Androgel which cost 400 a month at Wal Mart pharm so I said heck with that and went online and ordered the T Cyp without a scrip.
So my levels are at 270 mg when they did blood work on me few months back. So maybe if I take around 200mg a week and then get more blood work done next week? that I can start monitoring where i'm at? that sound good? thanks

I would say 100 mg a week for a 1 1/2 months; then do blood work again before going up even further. What Androgel dose did he prescribe? How many pumps? Did he also prescribe you an AI (anti-estrogen)? If not- I'd be VERY VERY careful unless you want to be buying yourself bra's from Victoria Secret. Did he give you HCG to keep your balls alive?

Like others have said; there are risks with this that have to be properly monitored. You can literally end up with erectile dysfunction, girl boobs, and there are other side effects if you aren't careful. Not trying to scare you- telling you how it is. You need to educate yourself and make sure your doctor is educated before you use any amount of anabolic substance.

[pokermonster29]

I would say 100 mg a week for a 1 1/2 months; then do blood work again before going up even further. What Androgel dose did he prescribe? How many pumps? Did he also prescribe you an AI (anti-estrogen)? If not- I'd be VERY VERY careful unless you want to be buying yourself bra's from Victoria Secret. Did he give you HCG to keep your balls alive?

Like others have said; there are risks with this that have to be properly monitored. You can literally end up with erectile dysfunction, girl boobs, and there are other side effects if you aren't careful. Not trying to scare you- telling you how it is. You need to educate yourself and make sure your doctor is educated before you use any amount of anabolic substance.

Ok good post thanks. So my question now is should I make sure I have the anti estorgen and Hgg before I inject a 100mg's a week starting out here.
Or could I order that today from my source then be ok to start taking it a few weeks or so from now when it comes in mail?
No my doctor did not have tons of time and frankly prob does not know crap compared to somebody like you/ an expert who deals with all the in's outs of steroids on here for years most likely.
I forgot what he scribed me androgel wise but said to get my levels around 500 or so which I think is kind of low. People on here in previous post said / recommended to get levels around 1200... what u think about this issue/ question?

[gixxerboy1]

600 is a much safer level long term. There is other health issues related with keeping levels that high for long periods of time. And TRT is life long.
Everyone requires a different amounts. Some require and ai some don't. This isn't something you just guess around with.
For most 200 mg a week would be 2 much.
Like said before you will need to wait about 6 weeks to get realistic blood work to see your test levels, e levels.
Some on trt also take DHEA.
If your dr isnt good then find a new dr. Dont play guess work with something you dont understand and effects your long term health.
and if your levels are in the 200's now you will feel a difference getting them in the 600's

[dan991]

Ok good post thanks. So my question now is should I make sure I have the anti estorgen and Hgg before I inject a 100mg's a week starting out here.
Or could I order that today from my source then be ok to start taking it a few weeks or so from now when it comes in mail?
No my doctor did not have tons of time and frankly prob does not know crap compared to somebody like you/ an expert who deals with all the in's outs of steroids on here for years most likely.
I forgot what he scribed me androgel wise but said to get my levels around 500 or so which I think is kind of low. People on here in previous post said / recommended to get levels around 1200... what u think about this issue/ question?

You should always have your "extras" before starting on anything. Last thing you want to do is need them and not have them. There are symptoms of high estrogen and such however blood work is the only accurate thing you can do to tell you what to take and what your estrogen levels are. You may not even need them- some don't. But if you do... better to have them near by.

I guess the first thing you have to look at are what are you actually trying to accomplish? Are you on testosterone replacement therapy... or are you doing a steroid cycle? Same compounds are involved... but its a totally different thing. I myself am on TRT and I take 240 mg of Test Cyp every week, HCG twice a week, and 0.25 of an Arimidex pill once a week 3 days after my shot. I do blood work every month- and it took me almost a year to "know" what I should be dosing of each substance. Next week I am going to double my 240 mg and do a "blast cycle" as I'm back in the gym however once I do that- I'm no longer on TRT I am then "doing steroids".

[555mjolnir]

Could we please have some more info on your personal stats.(height, weight,BF%), your diet, and how you currently train and how long you've been at all of this?

HONESTLY IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GOT A BLOOD TEST AND WERE GIVEN ADVICE BY YOUR DOCTOR, THEN THROUGH IT ALL OUT THE WINDOW. IMHO

First off I don't understand this line "I would like some nice muscle tone and to look pretty damn built so dont want to take as much as they would but maybe around 2000 levels in my body to get there or 5000?" What levels are you talking about? not being rude I just don't get it? Test levels of 5000 god damn? don't know if I've ever heard any test level that high? talk about "roid rage" .

Please understand that you must have a solid foundation to build on before using AAS/ PED supplements!!! There is a lot of great info here so please take the time to EDUCATE yourself stick around and become a better YOU. Their are so many great and knowledgeable people here but everyone of of them will tell get your diet right first, get a solid training regime, rest properly, drink plenty of water, and get BW done.

Please don't misunderstand this, but I say if you've seen your doctor he should be able to help you or refer you to someone who can help with HRT, if you need it. With levels of 270 it should be no problem doing this the right way. Also understand that that getting "toned" or "pretty damn built" happens through DIET/Nutrition first and through a solid strength training plan, all of us that have put the time in to becoming our best, have put our time in the gym too. When you see a guy that looks like the Incredible Hulk please understand the INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF WORK he put in to his training and his diet. He is probably in the gym 4 days a week for a least an hour lifting and spends another 30-120 mins 3-5x's wk doing cardio, he knows BMR so he can manage his caloric intake, his BF%, how to manage macro nutrients for gaining or cutting, he has made this a lifestyle not just a New Year's resolution. Unless he is some kind of super genetic freak or mutation he has literally thousands of hours in the gym. Not to mention all of the sacrifices he has made, which include eliminating most if not all pre-packaged food, all deserts, cutting out all or most social drinking, most cheeses and fast food and spending hours preparing and weighing his own food. I spend several hrs every wk just boiling my eggs (2.5 dz eggs eod or e3d.), at least an hour a day logging my food each day, and 2.5-3 hours in the gym 4 days a week, and 1.5 hours 2 days a wk plus the hours I dedicate to my education of fitness and health, this is beyond my regular life of school, home ,and family.

I don't want to discourage you, I just want you to keep your goals realistic and healthy not think you can just fire some juice in your ass and like look a dude on the cover of some Men's Health or Body Building magazine. It is not that easy, it takes incredible work, it ain't free bro. Even if it doesn't cost a dime it wont come for free!!! Your BST(blood,sweat and tears) are the price of admission!!! GOOD LUCK.

See your doctor for the HRT and get a solid foundation and a good understanding of how your body works before adding additional AAS and what these compounds can do both for you and possible/likely side effects before venturing out on your own with supplementation. I say hit up the nutrition section first and the HRT section these guys/ladies are fabulous ask questions if you can't find info on your own but do look cause most all questions are asked over and over everyday or week.