Winny and clen cycle opinions?!?!

[Scottyb13]

This is thread for my friend who has done bulking cycles, but now wants to define. Winny and clen is what I thought. Please fill me in on ideas and or thoughts on this! Thanks

[panntastic]

This is thread for my friend who has done bulking cycles, but now wants to define. Winny and clen is what I thought. Please fill me in on ideas and or thoughts on this! Thanks

What's your friends stats?
How old
Weight
Height
How many cycles has he done?

Personally just suggesting winny and clen was a really bad idea dude!
Oral only cycles are crap and pointless in my opinion

[Scottyb13]

29 years old, 6', 223 lbs, 2 bulking cycles. I have not recommended winny and clen yet to him. Wanted to hear suggestions first. So what are your suggestions to define

[panntastic]

29 years old, 6', 223 lbs, 2 bulking cycles. I have not recommended winny and clen yet to him. Wanted to hear suggestions first. So what are your suggestions to define

What's his bf% like?

[Scottyb13]

It's not bad, he is on same healthy diet as me. From my knowledge of bf if I had to guess around 16-17%

[panntastic]

It's not bad, he is on same healthy diet as me. From my knowledge of bf if I had to guess around 16-17%

Can you get him to post a pic?
Maybe he should try to cut without AAS for a bit then finish off when he's down to decent bodyfat

[Scottyb13]

Getting pic would be difficult, so when cutting cycle does come around what would you recommend. If this was you

[qscgugcsq]

15% or under would be ok.

If he already did 2 cycle so he is familliar with test and pinning.

So I would advice him 8 weeks of 150mg test-P EOD + 80mg var for 8 weeks(with some udca(8 weeks is a long time for oral)

Of course hcg /AI/and a good pct require

With that he should be able to cut down fat. But most Important of all good diet and cardio will bring him to his objectif. Gl to him

[t-dogg]

Test should be in this cycle.

[Scottyb13]

Ok so lets see who else agrees with test p EOD and var for 8 weeks. Hcg AI and pct are given

[t-dogg]

Ok so lets see who else agrees with test p EOD and var for 8 weeks. Hcg AI and pct are given

Previous cycles?

[qscgugcsq]

It is not a vote -_-

You should be able to decide what's for you and what's is not...
If you don't feel like taking var just don't... My personal opinion is that var­ is greater than winstrol . It may not be your opinion and its ok like that.
Don't do a cycle because you saw 4 people agreed on that. You should know enough to decide by yourself and if you disagree with someone instead of going in on your own inform yourself and see why he is against that maybe he is wrong maybe you were.

And change all the you for him and ... Was inspired so that's what come out XD

[gixxerboy1]

If he is,16 percent he really doesnt to cycle to cut. And with that much fat a good diet he wont loose muscle