Tren acetate or enanethate???

[champ14]

What are the advantages of each??? Obviously acetate is faster and out of the system faster if the side effects are to bad but are there any advantages to either. On my first tren cycle I used euro trenabol which is a blend. I got great results. Now I'm on tren acetate and I'm not getting the same. Plus on the blend I was only taking like 350mg and not on acetate I'm at 600. I'm also not gettin the sides like I did before. It might sound weird but I liked the higher body temperate and night sweats. It let me know it was working

[Wes201]

What are the advantages of each??? Obviously acetate is faster and out of the system faster if the side effects are to bad but are there any advantages to either. On my first tren cycle I used euro trenabol which is a blend. I got great results. Now I'm on tren acetate and I'm not getting the same. Plus on the blend I was only taking like 350mg and not on acetate I'm at 600. I'm also not gettin the sides like I did before. It might sound weird but I liked the higher body temperate and night sweats. It let me know it was working

Ummm, your taking almost double as last time and not feeling nothing? Could it be your gear is beat? Did it come from a reliable source that you trust?

[champ14]

There's a lot of variables. The source is reliable but maybe my body reacts better to one brand better than the other, maybe I react better to the enanthate better, maybe I got great results since it was my first time on tren. There's a lot of variable and I can't figure it out. I don't wanna be on 600mg of tren but I feel it's needed for this brand. But I bought some of the tren I use to take so I'm gonna lower the dose and mix that in

[Turkish Juicer]

It sounds like your current gear is seriously under-dosed if not bunk.

[champ14]

It's not bunk since sometimes I do get nights sweats and I am getting results but maybe it is under dosed. I'm gonna mix it with the tren I use to take and see how it goes

[Wes201]

There's a lot of variables. The source is reliable but maybe my body reacts better to one brand better than the other, maybe I react better to the enanthate better, maybe I got great results since it was my first time on tren. There's a lot of variable and I can't figure it out. I don't wanna be on 600mg of tren but I feel it's needed for this brand. But I bought some of the tren I use to take so I'm gonna lower the dose and mix that in

You brought up some good points and all are possible. I guess bloods is the only way to find out for sure if its something to do with one of the things you mentioned or if you should stop pinning yourself with that stuff asap. I dont mean to sound negative, but now another member has chimed in that shares the same initial reaction that i had, and i feel it is the more realistic possibility. After all its not tren eth, you said your running ace, so that should have kicked in pretty, actually very powerfully by now with that high dose. But thats only my .02......Good luck


Ok, your newest post wasnt up yet when i started this post. So i see you are getting some tren sides. Well then at least you know its not completly beat, but most likely severely underdosed like champ said

[t-gunz]

It's not bunk since sometimes I do get nights sweats and I am getting results but maybe it is under dosed. I'm gonna mix it with the tren I use to take and see how it goes

you only need a low dose and you still can get the sides.

i still agree what was posted above that its underdosed. test is test like tren is tren. you should still be seeing good results

[champ14]

Ok I'm switching back to what I know is good and let's see what happens.

[human project]

What are the advantages of each??? Obviously acetate is faster and out of the system faster if the side effects are to bad but are there any advantages to either. On my first tren cycle I used euro trenabol which is a blend. I got great results. Now I'm on tren acetate and I'm not getting the same. Plus on the blend I was only taking like 350mg and not on acetate I'm at 600. I'm also not gettin the sides like I did before. It might sound weird but I liked the higher body temperate and night sweats. It let me know it was working

I like tren Hex

[Metalject]

The ester or esters attached should not affect the actual Tren hormone. Once you inject it, any form, once the ester detaches from the hormone you have the same Trenbolone hormone in your body regardless of the ester that was originally attached. There should not be a reaction change regarding the hormone's function because of the ester.

You also shouldn't adapt to it to where your body doesn't respond the next time you use it. I've also never been a fan of gauging any steroid or hormone's quality by side effects. I've always said the best cycles, I don't care what you're taking, are the ones where you have no side effects.

Like others have said, it sounds like your Tren is under dosed...this is really the only thing that makes any sense.

[champ14]

Wow great info thanks. Sometimes it's hard to find good clean products. I guess if I found one that works I should stick to it. Thanks again for clearing up about the esters

[Buster Brown]

I love Tren E and stocked up with some more Tren E and A for down the road from the same source/lab. There is something to be said for dancing with the devil you know vs. dancing with the devil you don't know.

[Bio-Active]

Like posted above tren is tren. I like tren e cause i am not a fan of eod injections. Tren a should be ran first to see if you can handle the sides first

[human project]

Like posted above tren is tren. I like tren e cause i am not a fan of eod injections. Tren a should be ran first to see if you can handle the sides first

Tren a is defiantly safe bc its out or your system fast if you run into issues... On the other hand for all other steroids, your right the only difference between compounds with different esters is release time.... BUT tren hex is different... I firmly believe it is a far superior product to a or e and everyone I know who competes strong man will tell you there is defiantly a big difference.... Sometimes its hard to find tho as many times its called somethin weird like new age primobolin.... I dono exactly.... I have done so many tren cycles I couldent even give an exact number and I'm sure hex is faaaarrrrr superior

[Turkish Juicer]

^^^ Interesting.

[175lbnewbie]

I am seriously thinking of trying tren a. I have used test enanthate 250 and I gained a pound a day! Which is good but I didn't like the bloated look. I don't mind the shot's. Can you tell me what is the best way to use tren a.? Dosing, dosing intervals, and what to take when I come off of the cycle? I have researched it some but mostly from the info on web pages. Thanks for the input

[valkyrie]

Tren a is defiantly safe bc its out or your system fast if you run into issues... On the other hand for all other steroids, your right the only difference between compounds with different esters is release time.... BUT tren hex is different... I firmly believe it is a far superior product to a or e and everyone I know who competes strong man will tell you there is defiantly a big difference.... Sometimes its hard to find tho as many times its called somethin weird like new age primobolin.... I dono exactly.... I have done so many tren cycles I couldent even give an exact number and I'm sure hex is faaaarrrrr superior

This is ridiculous. Tren hex is barely different from tren enth. There is absolutely nothing magical about it. Also if you aren't paying triple what enth costs or more you're not getting real hex. That Esther is unbelievably expensive and probably 95% of it is fake. I mean really read your post. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but you completely contradict yourself. Tren is tren but hex is magic? No. Unless you have some one in a million unique body chemistry no its not.

[human project]

This is ridiculous. Tren hex is barely different from tren enth. There is absolutely nothing magical about it. Also if you aren't paying triple what enth costs or more you're not getting real hex. That Esther is unbelievably expensive and probably 95% of it is fake. I mean really read your post. I'm not trying to be disrespectful but you completely contradict yourself. Tren is tren but hex is magic? No. Unless you have some one in a million unique body chemistry no its not.

First off its exactly the same price, two I speak from a personal stand point. I google nothing I say and never write with sources. Everything I saw or reccomend is from personal experience. ; I'm very in tune with my body and I can tell you exactly the amount of carbs it takes for me to gain optimal muscle.,, wouldent you think after 12+years in a gym, so many lifting competitions there's no way to count, or the fact that I spend every waking moment completely obsessed with what could possibly make me bigger, faster, stronger, or look better. So even if the hex is "barely" any different.... Any difference that would make the steroid "any" BETTER would make it preferable in my book. Not to mention when Tren hex hits our gym ever year or two ppl go absolutely crazy for it... Every person who takes steroids gets it and swears by it; and I know some of the top competitors anywhere near the area.... Seems like general consensus for our group at least. And btw thank you.... I do like to think of myself as a "genetic freak" well I just call it thoroughbred.....

[panntastic]

First off its exactly the same price, two I speak from a personal stand point. I google nothing I say and never write with sources. Everything I saw or reccomend is from personal experience. ; I'm very in tune with my body and I can tell you exactly the amount of carbs it takes for me to gain optimal muscle.,, wouldent you think after 12+years in a gym, so many lifting competitions there's no way to count, or the fact that I spend every waking moment completely obsessed with what could possibly make me bigger, faster, stronger, or look better. So even if the hex is "barely" any different.... Any difference that would make the steroid "any" BETTER would make it preferable in my book. Not to mention when Tren hex hits our gym ever year or two ppl go absolutely crazy for it... Every person who takes steroids gets it and swears by it; and I know some of the top competitors anywhere near the area.... Seems like general consensus for our group at least. And btw thank you.... I do like to think of myself as a "genetic freak" well I just call it thoroughbred.....

I'm with Val on this buddy I have been doing homebrew for a long time and raw hex is way more expensive than enth or acetate.
Never used it but I just checked and its defo more expensive

[human project]

Well my source sells them the exact same price... Maybe ask your supplier why its more expensive if its the same thing....

[Metalject]

Tren-hex and Tren-e are almost structurally identical. Like Val said these compounds are very similar and virtually interchangeable. The only difference of notable worth is Tren-hex represents the only Trenbolone compound ever used in human medicine. Negma produced it on the pharmaceutical market for 30+ years until it was discontinued somewhere around 1996 or 97. It was a fairly successful steroid in numerous therapeutic treatment plans, but Trenbolone has always held a lot of controversy around it more so than many steroids in the medical community.

As for the price...the hexahydrobenzylcarbonate ester should be more expensive than enanthate. A lot of suppliers also mark up the price of Tren-hex due to the fact that they can...there's a stigma that surrounds this form of Tren much like that of Primobolan that allows suppliers to generally charge more for this form of Tren compared to other forms. I think a lot of this started with Duchain's comments on the hex version years ago, but those claims were later proven false, even by Duchain.

If a supplier is selling Tren-e and Tren-hex for the same price, there's a good chance, a very good chance both are simply Tren-e....if they're both actually Trenbolone compounds it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to tell the difference in the two.

[Allaaro]

Tren-hex is more expensive from where I've seen it...and it makes sense. It is a product in less demand....so obviously it will cost more to get.

Not worth the cash difference and better to stick with a/e.

[human project]

Tren-hex is more expensive from where I've seen it...and it makes sense. It is a product in less demand....so obviously it will cost more to get.

Not worth the cash difference and better to stick with a/e.

Huh.... So as supply stays consistent and demand drops; price rises???.... Wow that's a funny marketing scheme that wasn't taught in my Econ class.... Funny that basic fundamentals would chance in a couple years

[tempted1]

Big fan of tren ace! Never tried e tho.. Tried to take it easy on my 2nd cycle of tren a by only inj twice a week but the sides were way worse than when I ran eod.. Tren ace 75mg/ml eod worked numbers for me w/o as many complications. As for running it by itself that's a chance "you" take everyone's body is different. As for me call me stupid but I have tried it and as far as strength/ sides it was worth it.. I just try to leave it alone for a few cycles then I'm back at. Last was just test e 250 at 2 shots a week for 10 weeks. Never felt better in my life. Bench went from 325-360 and maintained. Anyways only an opinion of ace eod which wouldn't hurt to add test or something similar to it.

[human project]

Big fan of tren ace! Never tried e tho.. Tried to take it easy on my 2nd cycle of tren a by only inj twice a week but the sides were way worse than when I ran eod.. Tren ace 75mg/ml eod worked numbers for me w/o as many complications. As for running it by itself that's a chance "you" take everyone's body is different. As for me call me stupid but I have tried it and as far as strength/ sides it was worth it.. I just try to leave it alone for a few cycles then I'm back at. Last was just test e 250 at 2 shots a week for 10 weeks. Never felt better in my life. Bench went from 325-360 and maintained. Anyways only an opinion of ace eod which wouldn't hurt to add test or something similar to it.

When you run tren only cycles do you have any issues with gyno or sex drive??

[Allaaro]

Huh.... So as supply stays consistent and demand drops; price rises???.... Wow that's a funny marketing scheme that wasn't taught in my Econ class.... Funny that basic fundamentals would chance in a couple years

It is in less demand...so they don't buy as much in bulk like some other compounds. So the prices are higher since they themselves are paying more for it.

[tempted1]

You might think I'm crazy but as far as sex drive the tren only had me more hyped than a test only cycle. Knowing you've done proper research you know different compounds react to people in different manners. I loved it. I love test only too.. But when you put the two together Get ready to buy bigger clothes lol. As for gyno got a very mild case, went to nutrishop and actually got something over the counter and worked magic

[human project]

You might think I'm crazy but as far as sex drive the tren only had me more hyped than a test only cycle. Knowing you've done proper research you know different compounds react to people in different manners. I loved it. I love test only too.. But when you put the two together Get ready to buy bigger clothes lol. As for gyno got a very mild case, went to nutrishop and actually got something over the counter and worked magic

I believe it... The obly problem with tren and test is running the test too high. Tren doesn't aromitize so most of those sides are actually caused by the test.. 200-300mg of test works greet with 700mg tren.

[tempted1]

Are you talking about a whole cycle 200-300 test e n 700 of tren ace? I ran 225 mgs of ace and 500 of test e a week and worked to the T. Tren ace eod n every 3-4 days test e.

[human project]

Are you talking about a whole cycle 200-300 test e n 700 of tren ace? I ran 225 mgs of ace and 500 of test e a week and worked to the T. Tren ace eod n every 3-4 days test e.

How was the cycle?? Any sides??

[tempted1]

Cycle went smooth other than the bloated look. Gyno wasn't a problem at all, but with proper ai's you can prevent that. Liquidex is the same compund as arimidex minus a good chunk of money which as you know arimidex actually reduces estrogen levels while novladex just binds to the receptor to block it. Hcg n arimidex would be a good thing to run thru your cycle stopping the hcg 2 weeks before you begin pct. after 3-5 weeks of proper pct you should be in the clear brotha

[gixxerboy1]

I am seriously thinking of trying tren a. I have used test enanthate 250 and I gained a pound a day! Which is good but I didn't like the bloated look. I don't mind the shot's. Can you tell me what is the best way to use tren a.? Dosing, dosing intervals, and what to take when I come off of the cycle? I have researched it some but mostly from the info on web pages. Thanks for the input

if your a newb there is no reason for you to try tren. And if you were gaining a lb a day and getting bloated thats an estrogen and diet issue no drug