400 mgs of Test/mL...aching Pin Sites for 3-4 days...normal? How can I remedy?

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

hi, everyone.

im using 400 mgs of Test/mL...by Geneza Pharm.

I have aching Pin Sites for 3-4 days..

those pin sites are my Pecs and my left delt.

my left delt was virgin territory for about 1 month or a little bit more than that.

there's no redness or black & blue marks.

it just feels like some A-hole really give me some bad BIRTHDAY PUNCHES ON MY SHOULDER

I aspirated correctly.

I actually USED LESS THAN 1 ML, like 3/4 of 1 ml which equates to 300 mgs of Test.

but it could be as high as 325 mgs.

but it's still a high dosage and I think the higher the dosage IMuscular would mean more of the Test oil bothering the muscle Pin site.

Is it normal to feel this? I think it is....

Also, should I apply ice or heat so that it heals quicker.

Heat I would think (in the form of a moist heating pad) would kind of make the muscle warm and conducive to festering infections cos infections THRIVE in heat.

I'm pretty sure an Ice pack would be good, but need 2 confirm.

thanks for any constructive help....

[Sfla80]

Basically answered all your own ?'s.

Heating pad too.

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Ok thanks. I'm going to apply a heating pad & also work through the pain.

I wonder what pain lateral dumbell shoulder raises would bring---but such pain comes with the territory.

nice pic...she looks like a sex kitten wanting some hot man milk...haha!

[Lunk1]

No ice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is the mg/ML?

heating pad will help some and maybe some motrin...other than that, stop crying!

[stpete]

Yeah, no ice. I would also also hit bigger muscles such as glutes or quads w/a smaller dose, even if having to pin once more. You should be pinning that twice a week anyway.

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

400mg/mL it must really be CONCENTRATED stuff. Thanks for the advice.

No ice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is the mg/ML?

heating pad will help some and maybe some motrin...other than that, stop crying!

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Yeah, no ice. I would also also hit bigger muscles such as glutes or quads w/a smaller dose, even if having to pin once more. You should be pinning that twice a week anyway.

yes. im pinning 250 mg every 3 days totalling 500 mgs/week. each injection with this gear I'm using has to be less than 1 ml because 1 mL equals A WHOPPING, LARGE 400 MG dose.

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Now I notice a reddish kind of color to my left deltoid and left triceps like from a bruise. It's not black and blue. It probably was there before, but it being winter i was wearing long john sweaters and had my arm covered. Is this still nothing to worry about? I read somewhere that as long as I don't have a fever, it's not an abcess. So should I quit worrying about and let it run its course?

[MuscleInk]

yes. im pinning 250 mg every 3 days totalling 500 mgs/week. each injection with this gear I'm using has to be less than 1 ml because 1 mL equals A WHOPPING, LARGE 400 MG dose.

How does 250mg x 3 = 500mg????????

[Soar]

How does 250mg x 3 = 500mg????????

That's still 500 a week, he's pinning every three days.

[MuscleInk]

Rookie injection questions. Not bashing you but this is why we tell guys to read, read, read! Injection pain is normal but will vary in a number of factors (that you should already be aware of):

- bore size of needle
- virgin muscles
- size of muscle
- concentration of gear
- total volume (mls or mg) injected per area
- type of gear (single ester vs. blends)
- sterility of gear
- sterility of injection protocol-
- speed of injection
- how steady your hands are

Blends (e.g. Sust275, superT, t400, etc.) which contain a variety of esters with different lengths and half lives, are far more painful IMO. I'm using one now that results in PIP lasting nearly a week. It's ridiculous and I won't be using it again.

Highly concentrated gear (e.g. 400mg/ml) will be painful as well because its so concentrated. Think about it, a 2ml injection of 400mg/ml would equal 800mg of an oil based steroid injected into your muscle. If you injected all that into a small muscle, the PIP would make you regret it!

[MuscleInk]

That's still 500 a week, he's pinning every three days.

Thanks Soar. Misread that at pinning 3x a week and not e3d.

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Thanks Soar. Misread that at pinning 3x a week and not e3d.

Thanks, a lot Muscle Ink. Either I will improve reading the right dosage on the syringe or get some easier to find, less concentrated gear or learn how to inject in glutes. So redness is nothing to worry about. Thanks, again Muscle Ink.

[MuscleInk]

Thanks, a lot Muscle Ink. Either I will improve reading the right dosage on the syringe or get some easier to find, less concentrated gear or learn how to inject in glutes. So redness is nothing to worry about. Thanks, again Muscle Ink.

Redness is usually an immune response. Both the oil and the needle will cause local trauma which will appear as skin that is a little pink or red, slightly swollen, and warm to the touch. The swelling/inflammation will cause a dull pain.

As long as the location doesn't become hardened or appear as a bruising or if you start to develop a fever and or nausea, you should be ok.

You can treat the area heat or even a muscle ointment such as tiger balm, icy hot, or other topical analgesic remedies for the pain and to help relax the muscle a bit. Don't use ice. That may delay the absorption of gear and promote the formation of an abscess which is something you do not want.

200-400mg of ibuprofen will help with pain and inflammation as well if you need.

[Lunk1]

I'll but there a few guys that think twice before playing with high concentration gear again lmao!

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

Redness is usually an immune response. Both the oil and the needle will cause local trauma which will appear as skin that is a little pink or red, slightly swollen, and warm to the touch. The swelling/inflammation will cause a dull pain.

As long as the location doesn't become hardened or appear as a bruising or if you start to develop a fever and or nausea, you should be ok.

You can treat the area heat or even a muscle ointment such as tiger balm, icy hot, or other topical analgesic remedies for the pain and to help relax the muscle a bit. Don't use ice. That may delay the absorption of gear and promote the formation of an abscess which is something you do not want.

200-400mg of ibuprofen will help with pain and inflammation as well if you need.

Thanks a million, Muscle Ink. Your advice & info. AND the time you took & effort u took to write it to help a somewhat concerned Juiicer, will NOT BE IN VAIN. I've discreetly copied & pasted it as an MS Word doc.

If I can be of help, let me know. I'll minimize superflous, un-needed, questions by reading more "stickys" & background info. on this site. thanks again.

[MakeUpLostTimeFast]

I'll but there a few guys that think twice before playing with high concentration gear again lmao!

yes, Lunk. you "bet" not "but" and there's probably a good reason high concentration gear is INEXPENSIVE. thanks for ur input, Lunk.

[Lunk1]

yes, Lunk. you "bet" not "but" and there's probably a good reason high concentration gear is INEXPENSIVE. thanks for ur input, Lunk.

Yes..my but meant bet! I was also busting Ink's balls because he has been using some high concentration (not cheap I'm sure) gear that has made him cry like a girl too...don't let him fool ya lol.

Sorry Doc...had to rat ya out lol.

Alot of guys come on here using 300mg or better test and have the same issues. It is a good bang for the buck but as you know...it comes with some issues too lol

[MuscleInk]

I'll but there a few guys that think twice before playing with high concentration gear again lmao!

I'm a masochist. .

[Lunk1]

I'm a masochist. .

Is that German for idiot lol?

[MuscleInk]

Yes..my but meant bet! I was also busting Ink's balls because he has been using some high concentration (not cheap I'm sure) gear that has made him cry like a girl too...don't let him fool ya lol.

Sorry Doc...had to rat ya out lol.

Alot of guys come on here using 300mg or better test and have the same issues. It is a good bang for the buck but as you know...it comes with some issues too lol

No worries. I won't deny it! Damn pain is kicking my ass. Started some antibiotics today. Glute knot is turning purple.

Good to know I pay so much to have the shit beat out of me by PIP. Lol

Going to the gym tonight and I don't care if I have to medicate the pain away!!!!

Maybe some hydrocodone and flexeril will get it done! Lol

[Lunk1]

No worries. I won't deny it! Damn pain is kicking my ass. Started some antibiotics today. Glute knot is turning purple.

Good to know I pay so much to have the shit beat out of me by PIP. Lol

Going to the gym tonight and I don't care if I have to medicate the pain away!!!!

Maybe some hydrocodone and flexeril will get it done! Lol

Hate Hydro...makes me shyt boulders!

[MuscleInk]

Is that German for idiot lol?

Could be. I've been called that too.

[MuscleInk]

Hate Hydro...makes me shyt boulders!

Got oxy too but I'd rather be conscious for the work out.