First time with Sustanon, any advice would be appreciated

[beefymorgan]

So I have ran test prop and test enanthate with my previous cycles. I have never however used sustanon and finally decided to give it a go. I've have already started my cycle but maybe someone who has used it can give some input on dosage. This is a test prop and sustanon cycle......I have heard of this cycle and read about it. Thought id give it a try...

Cycle as of current:

Test prop weeks 1-3 100mg Eod
Sustanon weeks 1-12 250mg Monday and Thursday
Test prop weeks 12-15 100mg Eod

Nolvadex and Clomid Pct along with natural test booster.

What i don't know is should my Sust dose be higher? Should i be running 625mgs to 750mgs a week or is the 500mgs g2g? Previously i have done test e at 750 a week and prop up to 550-600 a week. I have heard up the dose and i have heard running 500 is the normal amount. I didnt think the sust should be longer than 12 weeks especially when adding in prop for another 3 weeks after but again, sust is new grounds with me and any info is much appreciated.

[Lunk1]

Assuming you plan to use an AI you cycle looks pretty good. Sust is still just test so the amounts would not change basesd on which test you chose!

If you really want to take full advantage of the prop in Sus then pin EOD...it's not a ton so 2X week is protocal often used as well

[Bio-Active]

What is your previous cycle exp and why are you not running an AI or HCG during this cycle?

[snowman]

So , you going to use 900mg of test a week right? Your cycle is fine, but im assuming that you are thinking, sust, is different then test Prop, and for that reason, you not sure If you should run it higher... test is test bro... test prop is the same thing as Sust, Sust just has different esters, that's all... i would either use test prop or sust, BUT you can still use both.... 500mg of sust, with 400mg of test prop, you will actually be using 900mg in total... in my opinion you dont need that much, as long you got a good diet.
One thing i dont see planned in your cycle, is Ai during the cycle and Hcg, do you have anything planned for that ?

[snowman]

Damn.. you guys are fast....lol

[Lunk1]

So , you going to use 900mg of test a week right? Your cycle is fine, but im assuming that you are thinking, sust, is different then test Prop, and for that reason, you not sure If you should run it higher... test is test bro... test prop is the same thing as Sust, Sust just has different esters, that's all... i would either use test prop or sust, BUT you can still use both.... 500mg of sust, with 400mg of test prop, you will actually be using 900mg in total... in my opinion you dont need that much, as long you got a good diet.
One thing i dont see planned in your cycle, is Ai during the cycle and Hcg, do you have anything planned for that ?

He is frontloading and backloading with prop...noit running it all the way through

[chi]

love sustanon and swear by it though it has been some time since i have last used this compound. As fas as dosing goes everyone reacts differently to different doses and sometimes more is not always better. 500 mgs of test is an adequate dosage for myself but I have ran it before at 750 mgs. Like someone previously stated sustanon is just test and should be treated the same though I usually follow the protocol of pinning every 5 days since it does contain prop, which is a short ester. From what you state you are splitting up the dosing of the sus bi weekly which looks good to me.

I don't use an AI during cycle since I feel the negative sides are tolerable for me up until I feel any sort of gyno like symptoms. However I do keep an AI handy for this very reason and you should as well. Arimidex is choice for me. HCG should be ran for each and every cycle you are on to make recovery and pct that much more effective. Look into that does accordingly

Chi

[beefymorgan]

Yes sorry, i have AI for cycle. Never Ever ran anything without having and AI or PCT set up first. No i have never used HCG with any cycles. Always mainly nolva and clomid. So snowman youre saying cut out the prop. and just run the sust.

[beefymorgan]

Yeah i always have arimidex on hand for the just incase but i rarely run it completely through the cycle. Never used HCG, always stuck with the nolvadex and clomid for my pct.

[Lunk1]

Yes sorry, i have AI for cycle. Never Ever ran anything without having and AI or PCT set up first. No i have never used HCG with any cycles. Always mainly nolva and clomid. So snowman youre saying cut out the prop. and just run the sust.

Honestly...run it the way you have it layed out! Consider HCG...it will aid in speedy recovery!

[beefymorgan]

I was confused on that when he said i was running 900mg.....yes i am only running the prop the first 3 weeks and then the last 3 weeks. Thought about tapering down the last 3 weeks with the prop 100mgs, 75mgs, 50mgs Eod to finish the cycle.

[Lunk1]

Yeah i always have arimidex on hand for the just incase but i rarely run it completely through the cycle. Never used HCG, always stuck with the nolvadex and clomid for my pct.

Run the AI from start to last pin....AI's are like seatbelts. 99% of the time they save lives and then there is the 1% who have had problems! I would take 99% anyday and wear my seatbelt and use my AI

[snowman]

Yes sorry, i have AI for cycle. Never Ever ran anything without having and AI or PCT set up first. No i have never used HCG with any cycles. Always mainly nolva and clomid. So snowman youre saying cut out the prop. and just run the sust.

I miss read what you were doing but lunk1 read it perfectly... i thought you were running sust and prop all the way through , so i thought it would be to much, If you are front loading and back loading with prop then you fine.... keep your sust at 500mg a week and you should have good gains... your cycle looks good.

[Lunk1]

I was confused on that when he said i was running 900mg.....yes i am only running the prop the first 3 weeks and then the last 3 weeks. Thought about tapering down the last 3 weeks with the prop 100mgs, 75mgs, 50mgs Eod to finish the cycle.

No needto taper...you want to be as stable as possible!

[snowman]

He is frontloading and backloading with prop...noit running it all the way through

thanks, i miss read that...

[beefymorgan]

Thanks Lunk, ill stick to the cycle and I will get my hands on some HCG.....im sure ill be back about the dosing with that since again I have never used it with any of my cycles. Do you think i should taper the last 3 weeks with the prop or just run it the 100mgs EoD and call it done

[chi]

Yes sorry, i have AI for cycle. Never Ever ran anything without having and AI or PCT set up first. No i have never used HCG with any cycles. Always mainly nolva and clomid. So snowman youre saying cut out the prop. and just run the sust.

I personally would not cut out the prop front loading but would tailor it since you will only have 50 mgs of prop from each sus cc you inject. That to me is not a significant amount to jumpstart your cycle

[beefymorgan]

Great, Thanks all for the advice. Keep cycle as is......since i have been running 4 weeks now start AI (note to self run from first pin til last) and get my hands on some HCG. Quickest and best place for advice thats for sure

[beefymorgan]

I have already front loaded and am comming into the 5th week of the cycle. only using prop first and last 3 weeks.

[Lunk1]

Thanks Lunk, ill stick to the cycle and I will get my hands on some HCG.....im sure ill be back about the dosing with that since again I have never used it with any of my cycles. Do you think i should taper the last 3 weeks with the prop or just run it the 100mgs EoD and call it done

Nope....leave everything just as you have it!!!!! But use the AI please!

[beefymorgan]

Haha you got it man, actually just started AI. Good looking out

[Lunk1]

haha you got it man, actually just started ai. Good looking out

enjoy!!!!!

[Gaspaco]

I personally dont like TEST blends! Singles works better for me.

DUDE! just saw your stats!!!

5'10
220 and 8-10% bf

YOU GOT TO BE A MONSTER!!!!

Post some pics!

Keep it up bud!

[Bio-Active]

HCG should be a staple with all cycles! good choice man

[Stosh_112]

Looks good, ur gonna love the Endloading when u add the prop with the long esters still working. Kinda like icing on the cake.