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    How much test for normal daily function? Is a AI needed for that amount??

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    Previous Cycles:
    1. Test Prop 100mg EOD 8weeks
    2. Test Prop 500mg Week 10 weeks
    3. Test Prop & Winny 10 weeks

    Next Cycle: 8 weeks
    1-8 test prop 30mg EOD -100mg week
    1-10 tren ace 50mg ED - 350mg week
    liquid Prami
    liquidex
    HCG 500iu per week 250x2 Tues and Fri

    PCT: started 3 days after last pin
    Nova 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 50/25/25/25
    DAA 3g ED

    Question I have is about the level of test I need just for normal daily function? Some people say 100mg a week is good and others say 25mg ED is the right way to go. THe whole idea behind it is I want tren to do the work and just have a normal level of test in my body for daily body function. Is an AI needed for whatever amount that is. I here keeping test low like these helps to reduce tren sides as well. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellis7 View Post
    Stats
    Age 29
    Weight 190
    BF 10-12%
    Previous Cycles:
    1. Test Prop 100mg EOD 8weeks
    2. Test Prop 500mg Week 10 weeks
    3. Test Prop & Winny 10 weeks

    Next Cycle: 8 weeks
    1-8 test prop 30mg EOD -100mg week
    1-10 tren ace 50mg ED - 350mg week
    liquid Prami
    liquidex
    HCG 500iu per week 250x2 Tues and Fri

    PCT: started 3 days after last pin
    Nova 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 50/25/25/25
    DAA 3g ED

    Question I have is about the level of test I need just for normal daily function? Some people say 100mg a week is good and others say 25mg ED is the right way to go. THe whole idea behind it is I want tren to do the work and just have a normal level of test in my body for daily body function. Is an AI needed for whatever amount that is. I here keeping test low like these helps to reduce tren sides as well. Thoughts?
    100mg per week would put you lower than average
    150mg per week is about average test level for a younger guy
    200mg will put you at the top range of natty test levels
    250 will put you slightly above natty levels, but many people will use 250 for TRT

    none of these doses require an AI
    25 ED would probably be a good dose, but most people will want to run a longer estered test for TRT so they only need to inject once or twice a week.

    I would definitely take the prop up to at least 50mg EOD on your prop/tren cycle
    Most people wouldn't run winny for 10 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellis7 View Post
    Stats
    Age 29
    Weight 190
    BF 10-12%
    Previous Cycles:
    1. Test Prop 100mg EOD 8weeks
    2. Test Prop 500mg Week 10 weeks
    3. Test Prop & Winny 10 weeks

    Next Cycle: 8 weeks
    1-8 test prop 30mg EOD -100mg week
    1-10 tren ace 50mg ED - 350mg week
    liquid Prami
    liquidex
    HCG 500iu per week 250x2 Tues and Fri

    PCT: started 3 days after last pin
    Nova 40/40/20/20
    Clomid 50/25/25/25
    DAA 3g ED

    Question I have is about the level of test I need just for normal daily function? Some people say 100mg a week is good and others say 25mg ED is the right way to go. THe whole idea behind it is I want tren to do the work and just have a normal level of test in my body for daily body function. Is an AI needed for whatever amount that is. I here keeping test low like these helps to reduce tren sides as well. Thoughts?
    Why are you running it like this? Its fine if you do, just wondering the logic behind it more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth

    Why are you running it like this? Its fine if you do, just wondering the logic behind it more than anything.
    A lot more people are running low dose test now with tren just to get the tren to do its work

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    Also, why are you quitting the prop after week 8. Run it all the way through week 10 IMHO.

    and if this is your fourth cycle, and the tren's going to be doing all the work, bump the dose up a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid
    Also, why are you quitting the prop after week 8. Run it all the way through week 10 IMHO.
    Shit never saw that 2 weeks of tren with no test is going to hurt real bad

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    Run your Prop and Tren the same time. (same pin actually)

    Increase your prop to 150mg/wk

    Run AI .25mg E3D and monitor closely.

    Prami on hand.

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    Nova 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 75/50/50/50

    Note: the average healthy male produces 11-15mg of test /day. if this is incorrect please provide me a link to read. thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Run your Prop and Tren the same time. (same pin actually)

    Increase your prop to 150mg/wk

    Run AI .25mg E3D and monitor closely.

    Prami on hand.

    PCT i
    Nova 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 75/50/50/50

    Note: the average healthy male produces 11-15mg of test /day. if this is incorrect please provide me a link to read. thanks.
    Why does he need an AI on 150 test?
    and you think he's running an adequate dose of tren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    Why does he need an AI on 150 test?
    and you think he's running an adequate dose of tren?
    Youre right he 'may" not need it, but at E3D he can easily monitor this and adjust to zero. If he chooses to omit it completely, that's fine too.

    Yes i think 350 (x5 anabolic equivalent) is adequate for first time (or second) Tren use.

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    That's almost the exact setup I've been running the past 3 weeks:
    125 mg T.P. eod
    100 mg T.A. eod
    HCG 250 mg M,W,F.
    12.5 mg Exemestane eod
    1 mg Caber wk.
    That's plenty enough Test to keep me...Can't go wrong with this setup. Btw, don't run the Tren longer than the Prop unless you wan't to shut your sex life off. You'll probly also want to run your Prami or Caber 3- 4 weeks past cesation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SportbikerKid View Post
    Also, why are you quitting the prop after week 8. Run it all the way through week 10 IMHO.

    and if this is your fourth cycle, and the tren's going to be doing all the work, bump the dose up a little bit.
    My bad. It was a typo.. Tren will be ended at week 8 along with the test prop. I had originally planned a 10 week cycle, but now am lowering it to 8. The reason I am not going 10 week anymore is because apparently there isn't a lot of gains made for the sides after week 8. IDK how true this is.... but that was my thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Run your Prop and Tren the same time. (same pin actually)

    Increase your prop to 150mg/wk

    Run AI .25mg E3D and monitor closely.

    Prami on hand.

    PCT i
    Nova 40/20/20/20
    Clomid 75/50/50/50

    Note: the average healthy male produces 11-15mg of test /day. if this is incorrect please provide me a link to read. thanks.
    The 100mg test prop was suggested from the All you need to know about tren sticky. 25mg ED of test was what another guy told me that he did for his tren test cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellis7 View Post
    THe whole idea behind it is I want tren to do the work and just have a normal level of test in my body for daily body function. Is an AI needed for whatever amount that is. I here keeping test low like these helps to reduce tren sides as well. Thoughts?
    100 mg/wk might work for you, but 200 mg/wk is more often used for this purpose. It also serves as the basic TRT/HRT dosage, as well as the typical cruising dosage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellis7 View Post
    The 100mg test prop was suggested from the All you need to know about tren sticky. 25mg ED of test was what another guy told me that he did for his tren test cycle.
    100mg is fine, but i would increase to 150mg. That's my opinion. Its not right or wrong, just my opinion based on what works for me. 25mg ED is too much pinning for me and totally unnecessary.

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