Deconstructing bro-science!

[Turkish Juicer]

Hi y'all!

The title says it all... Don't you think it is about time to deconstruct typical bro-science facts and make the passing of factual knowledge easier on everybody on the board? If you think so, then please contribute to this threat. Who knows, maybe it will become a sticky!

Suggested bro-science titles to be deconstructed:

1. ''Long ester AAS leads to water retention more so than short ester AAS.''

2. ''You don't need to start administering your AI until you get sides during a cycle.''

3. ''Stacking multiple compounds at low doses in a cycle is a safer and more effective method than running Test alone at a relatively high dose.''

4. ''There are cutting compounds and there are bulking compounds.''

5. ''Bench-press is the ultimate exercise for those who want to develop a massive chest and has really no alternative.''

6. ''Organic Hemp Protein for as such reason is better and healthier for you compared to whey.''

7. ''Deca-Durabolin heals joints and ligaments.''

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Chime in!

[Soar]

But everyone knows the bench is the only workout for a real man...

[Atomini]

AWESOME THREAD IDEA!!!!

I'm out and about right now but once I get home, i'm going to start throwing some examples of stupid bro-science into this thread and disprove it.

[Turkish Juicer]

But everyone knows the bench is the only workout for a real man...

Yes, ''the real man'' who chugs down his strawberry-vanilla flavored iso-whey after 12 sets of ''free-weights only'' chest exercise in his Nike brand shoes, shorts and t-shirt!

[Atomini]

8: "Deca stores water in your joints" or "Deca lubes up the joints".

No. Deca simply exhibits a far greater degree of collagen synthesis and bone mineral storage promoting than all other anabolic steroids. I don't get how people come up with this stuff like "it lubes the joints". What am I, a car? Maybe I should inject WD40 right into my joints and tendons then.

[Turkish Juicer]

8:What am I, a car? Maybe I should inject WD40 right into my joints and tendons then.

Hilarious

[Soar]

Yes, ''the real man'' who chugs down his strawberry-vanilla flavored iso-whey after 12 sets of ''free-weights only'' chest exercise in his Nike brand shoes, shorts and t-shirt!

Lmao

[Turkish Juicer]

bump for a challenge

ps: where my bro-science proponents at?

[Sgt. Hartman]

You shouldn't use tamoxifen on cycle or for pct if a 19nor is/was being run.

[Sgt. Hartman]

AI dose should increase proportionally with on cycle testosterone dose.

[Sgt. Hartman]

You need to run a dopamine agonist with 19nors to prevent "prolactin gyno".

[Back In Black]

You must ingest expensive designer protein powders within 3.2 minutes of your last rep or else you will get cancer.

[Far from massive]

And most important,

Equipose caps shoulders.

Tapering dosage at the end of a cycle is better than PCT

You must ingest expensive designer protein powders within 3.2 minutes of your last rep or else you will get cancer.

Bro! U shuld knot weight that long!

[Far from massive]

8: "Deca stores water in your joints" or "Deca lubes up the joints".

No. Deca simply exhibits a far greater degree of collagen synthesis and bone mineral storage promoting than all other anabolic steroids. I don't get how people come up with this stuff like "it lubes the joints". What am I, a car? Maybe I should inject WD40 right into my joints and tendons then.

Back when I was racing bicycles there were times I thought about wrapping my knees in a hot cheese pizza ;-)

[Atomini]

Back when I was racing bicycles there were times I thought about wrapping my knees in a hot cheese pizza ;-)

What. The. Hell.

Were you on LSD or PCP while racing? Sounds like it must've been hell of a trip. No pun intended.

[jimmyinkedup]

8: "Deca stores water in your joints" or "Deca lubes up the joints".

No. Deca simply exhibits a far greater degree of collagen synthesis and bone mineral storage promoting than all other anabolic steroids. I don't get how people come up with this stuff like "it lubes the joints". What am I, a car? Maybe I should inject WD40 right into my joints and tendons then.

Actually progesterone is a powerful anti inflammatory and deca - being a progeetin, exhibits this powerful anti inflammatory effect as well. Causing the joints to in fact feel better. Nandi did a nice write up on this several years ago.

[Lunk1]

Should never run 2 19nors together!

[Turkish Juicer]

More bro-science stuff I can think of at the moment:

- ''Cardio post-workout will make you go catabolic.''

- ''Lifting sessions that exceed 45 min will also make you go catabolic due to cortisol.''

- ''About 50% of muscle fibers present in human body are stored in the form of Glutamic acid; therefore, L. Glutamine supplementation will serve an anti-catabolic purpose. You should take 20gr a day, more is better in fact.''

- ''Muscletech is the best supplement co.''

- ''PWO carbs along with AA is a must for building muscle. As a matter of fact, if you don't trigger insulin PWO, your metabolism doesn't know what to do with all the AA, can't send it to the muscle fibers.''

[Armykid93]

More bro-science stuff I can think of at the moment:

- ''Cardio post-workout will make you go catabolic.''

- ''Lifting sessions that exceed 45 min will also make you go catabolic due to cortisol.''

- ''About 50% of muscle fibers present in human body are stored in the form of Glutamic acid; therefore, L. Glutamine supplementation will serve an anti-catabolic purpose. You should take 20gr a day, more is better in fact.''

- ''Muscletech is the best supplement co.''

- ''PWO carbs along with AA is a must for building muscle. As a matter of fact, if you don't trigger insulin PWO, your metabolism doesn't know what to do with all the AA, can't send it to the muscle fibers.''

Can someone please explain the part about deca to me? I thought it was good for your joints and also I to thought longer than 45 minutes of a strenuous weights session would result in elevated Cortisol levels. Can somebody help me out?

[Turkish Juicer]

Actually progesterone is a powerful anti inflammatory and deca - being a progeetin, exhibits this powerful anti inflammatory effect as well. Causing the joints to in fact feel better. Nandi did a nice write up on this several years ago.

It is true that Deca helps ease joint pain through various mechanisms and we know this by some data available on the subject matter; however, claiming that it has ''joint healing properties'' is an entirely different thing...

[Turkish Juicer]

Can someone please explain the part about deca to me? I thought it was good for your joints and also I to thought longer than 45 minutes of a strenuous weights session would result in elevated Cortisol levels. Can somebody help me out?

Deca part is already explained above and a minor elevation in cortisol levels doesn't necessarily lead to the breakdown of muscle fibers.

All bro-science.

[Armykid93]

It is true that Deca helps ease joint pain through various mechanisms and we know this by some data available on the subject matter; however, claiming that it has ''joint healing properties'' is an entirely different claim and certainly is where bro-science peaks regarding knowledge of AAS.

Thanks for the info and the reply to the second part of my question.

[Atomini]

Deca indeed is very good for joints, connective tissue, and bone. When I get home, i'll reference some studies that demonstrate Deca's ability to exhibit more collagen synthesis and bone mineral retention than other AAS. And, as previously explained by jimmyinkedup, it also acts as an anti-inflammatory (something I just learned today).

The problem with the bro science in regards to Deca is that the explanation for WHY it alleviates joint and bone pain/problems is dead wrong. The bro science is the equivalent of saying that cars move on the road at great speeds, and the reason that cars move is because there are little gnomes under the hood that make it move...

[Lunk1]

The only way to cut is to eat 23 meals a day!

[Back In Black]

The only way to cut is to eat 23 meals a day!

And never eat carbs after midday!

[clarky.]

You shouldn't use tamoxifen on cycle or for pct if a 19nor is/was being run.

I'v used nolva for pct after tren cycles with no problems. I was just reading a thread think it was page five about 19nors and nolve. it was interesting.

[Lunk1]

And never eat carbs after midday!

LOL...if we get into diet myths this will be a loooonnnng thread!

[Atomini]

LOL...if we get into diet myths this will be a loooonnnng thread!

Yeah I agree, lets stick to AAS-related myths and broscience.

In regards to Deca, 2 studies here to show you: One involving a study where post-menopausal females were given Nandrolone and the result was that Nandrolone promoted significant increases in collagen synthesis(1). A different study also resulted in the conclusion that Nandrolone produced significant stimulation in bone mineral content, causing huge increases(2).

REFERENCES:
1. Metabolism. 1990 Nov;39(11):1167-9
2. Effects of nandrolone Deca Durabolin on bone mineral content. R, Righi GA, Turchetti V, Vattimo A.

[Atomini]

Oh and here's another one I disproved recently:

"Anavar is extremely mild on the HPTA and endogenous Testosterone production"

WRROOOOOOOONNNGGGG!

[marcus300]

Will a tight T-shirt make me lift more?

[Turkish Juicer]

Will a tight T-shirt make me lift more?

It did work for Coleman

[anahny]

"Guys who juice might have big muscles but they're d*** don't work so they can't please the lady's. You can't have both. "

[krugerr]

"Steriods are just cheating, they make you big without having to do much"

This was said to me at the weekend, by a guy weighing no more than 140lbs. Convinced that hard work can make me look like him. He then proceeded to show me his 'abs'. I'm 240lbs, **** dropping to be like that skinny rat!!

[Atomini]

"Steriods are just cheating, they make you big without having to do much"

This was said to me at the weekend, by a guy weighing no more than 140lbs. Convinced that hard work can make me look like him. He then proceeded to show me his 'abs'. I'm 240lbs, **** dropping to be like that skinny rat!!

Just the other day I was explaining to an Ectomorph kid in the gym how to get big since he asked me and told me "it's so hard to eat" and the usual stuff you'd hear from someone like that. I told him "yes, you have to eat to grow and you in particular have to eat A LOT, because even anabolic steroids won't do jack shit if you aren't eating properly."

To which his response was:

"What??? I thought steroids just worked." And I said to him, "No. Think about it logically. How do you possibly build a house without bricks, tools, and building supplies? You can hire as many workers as you want, which is what steroids are, but if you aren't supplying them with the tools and the materials to build the house, NOTHING IS GOING TO GET BUILT." After that, it was as if a lightbulb in his head lit up and he realized as he said "Ohhhhhh I seeeee."

So basically, to convince people that anabolic steroids are not a magic bean, you don't really need to go in-depth about how they work and what they do, as most people won't have a clue what you're talking about. 9 times out of 10 a simple analogy like that will make people realize the stupid logic they've been suckered into believing about AAS.

[Edwin23q]

Best advise I received was,

Bro your on GH, your starting your cycle, how hectic, you can eat what you want and never go gym and in 10 weeks your going to look hectic bro.

If only I was rich, I would give him the exact thing I'm taking and letting him eat his kebabs while watching the Bold and the Beautiful on TV.

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[Sgt. Hartman]

Will a tight T-shirt make me lift more?

Nah that's just bro science but a latex suit has done wonders for my bench press.

[anahny]

Nah that's just bro science but a latex suit has done wonders for my bench press.

Spandex helped me get my bench up to 385.

[bigsiv]

Spandex helped me get my bench up to 385.

Classic lol

[panntastic]

Milk builds muscles right?

[Back In Black]

Milk builds muscles right?

Yeah, but its for babies. Men drink beer!